Durangout Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) I have no words. I’m just horrified and sickened https://notthebee.com/article/welp-a-utah-city-is-hosting-an-all-ages-family-friendly-back-to-school-drag-event/ Edited September 1, 2022 by Durangout Link to comment
Popular Post jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Durangout said: I have no words. I’m just horrified and sickened https://notthebee.com/article/welp-a-utah-city-is-hosting-an-all-ages-family-friendly-back-to-school-drag-event/ Then don't attend. Problem solved. 10 Link to comment
HappyJackWagon Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Durangout said: I have no words. I’m just horrified and sickened https://notthebee.com/article/welp-a-utah-city-is-hosting-an-all-ages-family-friendly-back-to-school-drag-event/ Then you must be very righteous. Well done!! 3 Link to comment
Popular Post MustardSeed Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Durangout said: horrified and sickened Seems extreme. Why are you reacting so strongly to this? Men dressed up like women? Is this the worst society offers us? 6 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: Seems extreme. Why are you reacting so strongly to this? Men dressed up like women? Is this the worst society offers us? I was going to say that drag in itself doesn't seem to indicate moral or cultural decadence. I guess some people can't imagine a "family friendly" drag show. *shrug* Edited September 1, 2022 by jkwilliams 3 Link to comment
Popular Post The Nehor Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, Durangout said: I have no words. I’m just horrified and sickened https://notthebee.com/article/welp-a-utah-city-is-hosting-an-all-ages-family-friendly-back-to-school-drag-event/ So wordless and horrified you took the time to write words and share it here! Is this that virtue signaling thing people are always whining about? 6 Link to comment
Durangout Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: Seems extreme. Why are you reacting so strongly to this? Men dressed up like women? Is this the worst society offers us? No. It is however still a corruption of God’s fundamental plan. That “ former” BYU students are involved shows how low they have sunk. 2 Link to comment
bluebell Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: Is this the worst society offers us? Good point. 4 Link to comment
Durangout Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, The Nehor said: So wordless and horrified you took the time to write words and share it here! Is this that virtue signaling thing people are always whining about? Attack the messenger and not the evil that is on display. Got it. By your understanding of the term virtue signaling…if I said murder was bad you would call me a Karen, right? I’m ok with that. Edited September 1, 2022 by Durangout Link to comment
Durangout Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bluebell said: Good point. Because there are worse things that could be done you approve? An analogy that comes to mind is like saying because kiddie porn is worse than adult porn, adult porn is ok. Edited September 1, 2022 by Durangout Link to comment
Durangout Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: I was going to say that drag in itself doesn't seem to indicate moral or cultural decadence. I guess some people can't imagine a "family friendly" drag show. *shrug* Sorry. You are so wrong here. Link to comment
Popular Post jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Durangout said: Sorry. You are so wrong here. Brigham Morris Young, one of the founders of the Young Men’s program in the church, would disagree with you. From Wikipedia: Young performed as Pattirini in north and central Utah venues from 1885 to the 1900s. He could produce a convincing falsetto, and many in the audience did not realize that Pattirini was Young. One of his performances as Madam Pattirini was for the last birthday celebration of LDS president "Lorenzo Snow" in April 1901. Edited September 1, 2022 by jkwilliams 7 Link to comment
Popular Post bluebell Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Durangout said: I'm neutral on it. There is no way for me to righteously judge them individually, and I've been commanded not to judge unrighteously. And that's what I would be doing if I condemned them. 7 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, bluebell said: I'm neutral on it. There is no way for me to righteously judge them individually, and I've been commanded not to judge unrighteously. And that's what I would be doing if I condemned them. Yeah, I’m not particularly interested in drag shows, just as superhero movies don’t do anything for me. But there’s nothing necessarily salacious or erotic about a drag show. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post ttribe Posted September 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: Brigham Morris Young, one of the founders of the Young Men’s program in the church, would disagree with you. From Wikipedia: Young performed as Pattirini in north and central Utah venues from 1885 to the 1900s. He could produce a convincing falsetto, and many in the audience did not realize that Pattirini was Young. One of his performances as Madam Pattirini was for the last birthday celebration of LDS president "Lorenzo Snow" in April 1901. So glad you got Madam Pattirini in the thread. As soon as I saw the first post in here, Madam Pattirini was the first thing I though of. 6 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ttribe said: So glad you got Madam Pattirini in the thread. As soon as I saw the first post in here, Madam Pattirini was the first thing I though of. It's kind of funny that drag shows were not a big deal at that time, but now it's a sign of impending societal collapse. 4 Link to comment
bluebell Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: Yeah, I’m not particularly interested in drag shows, just as superhero movies don’t do anything for me. But there’s nothing necessarily salacious or erotic about a drag show. The only drag shows that I've been exposed to (not many and never in person) have not been sexual at all. It's like performance art. The connection to BYU is just an attempt for the show to be a part of Utah counter culture. A lot of people get their "street cred" in Utah by defining themselves in opposition to the church. I find that a weird way to be in the world personally because it seems like just another way to decide who you are going to be based on other people's choices, but I don't think it's a sinful lifestyle in and of itself. Edited September 1, 2022 by bluebell 2 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, bluebell said: The only drag shows that I've been exposed to (not many and never in person) have not been sexual at all. It's like performance art. The connection to BYU is just an attempt for the show to be a part of Utah counter culture. Yes, a lot of people get their "street cred" in Utah by defining themselves in opposition to the church. I find that a weird way to be in the world personally because it seems like just another way to decide who you are going to be based on other people's choices, but I don't think it's a sinful lifestyle in and of itself. I've always thought it was funny that in Utah a lot of the "vices" use names that are parodies of things Mormon, such as Polygamy Porter beer and Five Wives vodka. It seemed like a fairly good-natured tweaking of the dominant culture and never bothered me. 1 Link to comment
Senator Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Never been to one, but I've heard from first-hand sources that they are quite entertaining. Link to comment
Tacenda Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, Durangout said: No. It is however still a corruption of God’s fundamental plan. That “ former” BYU students are involved shows how low they have sunk. I bet it's a joke and not real. Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, Tacenda said: I bet it's a joke and not real. It's real. Again, what is the big deal? Link to comment
blackstrap Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just another example of men doing something women do... but with more flair ... and camp. (runs for cover !) 3 Link to comment
CV75 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Durangout said: I have no words. I’m just horrified and sickened https://notthebee.com/article/welp-a-utah-city-is-hosting-an-all-ages-family-friendly-back-to-school-drag-event/ I think a couple of the gag names are antithetical to wholesome children's entertainment and indicative of the nature of the performances that must follow suit. What would Mr. Rogers say? Link to comment
Peacefully Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 It was good enough for Shakespeare, lol. 1 Link to comment
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