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  1. Yep! Just enter the license plate, and you're good to go!
  2. But, in an easy to use online format, complete with automatic upload for use in the Temple?! That's just genius.
  3. According to the book Mysteries of Godliness, the Church had a curse book included in the True Order or Prayer for a brief time during the conflict with the U.S. government over polygamy: ""In 1880 Mormon leaders responded to efforts by the U.S. government to suppress plural marriage by convening a special temple prayer circle of general authorities to curse the church's enemies. Among the nearly 400 names listed on the prayer roll were those of Martin Van Buren, Ulysses S. Grant, Rutherford B Hayes, and James Buchannan."
  4. Any chance they could bring back the curse roll? I have a few names I might like to add....
  5. Dad's an idiot. Clearly, this guy is a bomb waiting to go off; if it wasn't the mission issue, it would have been something else.
  6. Pretty sure he responded because you're hilarious. ETA: I see he responded already. I like my summary, though.
  7. Truth be told, the Book of Abraham was a drop in the bucket in my faith loss.
  8. Wait, wait, wait...you just sat there, presumably with a straight face, and claimed that you "singlehandedly dismantled one of the greatest pits of doubts in all of Church History?" That is one of the most entertaining things I've ever seen on here. Thank you for that. I guess you better tell Dr. Gee and Dr. Muhlstein to hang up their apologist hats; you've rendered them obsolete..."singlehandedly." I guess someone like Dr. Ritner holds no candle to your knowledge and understanding of the topic, because you "singlehandedly" showed that an expert reading of the published Facsimiles
  9. I'm not ignoring that, at all. There is still no evidence Joseph Smith utilized or even considered that information when it came time to "translate" the Book of Abraham. There is no evidence he had an understanding of Champollion's work such that it informed or influenced his work on the Book of Abraham. Is there something in the various Kirtland Papers mentioning Champollion or Young about which I am unaware? Oh, and for the record, the day I abdicate my responsibility to meet Daubert standards to an attorney, is the day I stop performing expert witness services. As to your ad ho
  10. Wow. You went straight to the ad hominem and didn't even try. That's just...pure arrogance. For the record, evaluating evidence is a professional duty of mine...I'm an expert witness, counselor. Moreover, the existence of publication in the two referenced encyclopedias is NOT evidence Joseph Smith ever saw or considered such published work. Had he mentioned it in his writings? Had any of his scribes mentioned it in their writings? Did any witnesses mention Joseph talking about such published work by Young? Absent such evidence, I continue to assert your statement is nothing but specula
  11. That's pure speculation on your part. There is exactly zero evidence to support such a claim.
  12. "Execrable?" Really? That's a bit of a cheap shot, don't you think?
  13. Yes. I've stated my opinion that the middle ground is nonviable. I did engage in some reasoning on the matter with pogi. I find your reasoning far too esoteric to even warrant an argument, as you say.
  14. Perhaps I should have been more direct for the colloquialism impaired - In my opinion, having looked at the evidence and the context of the relevant doctrinal statements of Church leadership, I do not believe a viable middle ground exists on this issue.
  15. This is the point I was also trying to make to @pogi. The truth claims to many, many foundational elements of the Church are thoroughly undermined by the "Inspired Fiction" theory on the BoM. On average, I'm hesitant to look at issues at their polar opposites with no middle ground, but I just can't get my head around a viable middle ground on this one.
  16. I appreciate that. I only brought it up as a disclosure of my position so the reader could evaluate for herself or himself what my bias may or may not be.
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