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I hope this is the opening of many out there's eyes opening up about Tim Ballard and the ilk.

Well, I was going to say something else to MustardSeed, and that is many women like regular underwear for their period time. I hope I didn't offend her by what I said with wondering if it's okay for regular underwear.

Quoting again, I'm confused about the slip garment. Does it mean women are allowed to wear regular underwear? I sure would hope so.

I agree with you on most of what you say, I'm the same. I hold those notions in my head too, particularly with not wearing sleeves and what will people think. I probably won't go sleeveless especially now since my arms are flabby at my age. But I'll bet those people that work out and have defined arms will enjoy being able to show them now. I actually believe the church had other reasons to go sleeveless besides that it's too hot for those in the hot climates. I believe the youth are changing things and the church would like them to keep going to church and the temple. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Do you mind sharing why she's upset, your wife? No worries if not. It does say a lot about the modesty part, especially when a famous person's artwork was changed to show sleeves in the Ensign a few years ago.

Yes, whatever happened to the idea that we have current revelation?

I think it's my age, soon to be 64. Before taking out my endowments, I was not modest as far as the church goes. So it took a lot of faith on my part to wear the "g's" during those times. It was paramount that I wear them daily, except to shower or swim I guess. So I do see a big difference. I don't judge anyone, I just think of the difference I guess. More power to these women really. And to you! I kind of wish I had worded my post differently now. I do look forward to the short sleeves. For years I've constantly tugged at my sleeves around the collars to not show, because of all the material, in the most modest shirts ever that would still show at my neck. Garments fit differently on everyone. I am just so use to wearing them, when I go without it feels so uncomfortable.

I see a lot of members, women, not wearing garments. Or their clothing sure doesn't look like they are, short shorts, sleeveless shirts. I guess they think we'll think they're doing something that requires that attire, lol. In my days as a young person that wore garments, I never went w/o under my clothing, unless I swam. I guess it is a pet peeve of mine seeing the difference. I still wear them and I'm not active.

I'm bracing myself before reading! Welcome back!!!

I haven't seen either, but going to try and see at least one if not both!🎃

I know of a few people that have, semi recently.

He and the whole group (too political), do.

I saw some snippets of this, BYU played a good game, sadly the Utes really didn't.

What a sick in the head person. Or maybe he wasn't loved? I don't know, but it's terribly sad what's happening to churches around us.

Went to Truth & Treason, highly recommend! Can't say enough about it!