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I agree, it's weird. Maybe it only holds the trademark for "Mormon" (by itself) but that doesn't apply to terms like "mormon stories"?

Someone going through trauma publicly is never a great time to try to judge how trustworthy or rational they are. I'll give Helfer a pass on that and don't think it means her life is a trainwreck. But I do think that it was wise she shut down her professional facebook page (at least for a time). She was spiraling on it and needed to take a break.

So the church does own the word "Mormon"?

I'm annoyed that the link works for everyone else but for it just takes me to a page that says "search expired".

The link isn't working for me. Can you clarify? Who is Intellectual Reserve?

I don't know if I've been asked that question within the last 20 years. If I was, I would answer with the first option.

I get that and I agree. What I meant was that in regards to Natasha Helfer, I don't think the issues of the name and her membership council are separate. The name of the organization, coupled with her teachings on church doctrine within that organization, could be one of the reasons they felt they needed to call a membership council.

I don't think it is a separate issue. @Calm, when you get around to it later today maybe you can clarify on what you see the issue as.

Is it a problem though if she is using the term Mormon and advertising that she's a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? It doesn't seem unreasonable that that church would have concerns under those circumstances.

Someone who's not a member of the church who is using the word "mormon" is less likely to be considered to be representing the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, than someone who is a member of the church using that term. And I don't think that Calm was speaking about her not following church policy. It's her not following church doctrine that would be the issue.

SU already said this, but, while she might be revealing some of the issues she's really struggling with, I don't think our angriest selves are our true inner selves. Hurt bubbles out in unpleasant ways, and though I don't think her blame is rationally placed, I do think she's hurt right now.

I admit, when she said about starting her period during all of this: The FLOW is strong! Both in blood and in force. I feel it in my brain... my soul and my vaginal wall. What a trinity that is!!! She sounded more to me like Julie Rowe than a professional therapist.

It seems like she only has contempt for church leaders, including apostles and prophets, and does not believe they hold any authority. She also seems to disagree with many church doctrines, from sexual stuff to lgtbq stuff, to the sealing of families stuff. I really don't understand why she wants to stay.

That's a good way to describe it.