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  1. I think it all goes back to that “needs” pyramid they talk about sometimes. When you are relatively safe, fed, and able to pursue higher goals, things become problems that would never even in be on the radar for people trying to stay alive. We are very blessed, and probably also a little cursed, by the life most of us live and the problems we have space and energy to worry about. 😁
  2. My friend and I were talking about the interview questions yesterday over text so I happen to have a copy of what it used to say: "Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple, including wearing the temple garment as instructed in the endowment?" So it looks like they went from one question saying everything to two separate questions. The blurb that was supposed to be read the members at the end said this yesterday: "The temple garment is a reminder of covenants made in the temple and, when worn properly throughout life, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil. The garment should be worn beneath the outer clothing. It should not be removed for activities that can reasonably be done while wearing the garment, and it should not be modified to accommodate different styles of clothing. Endowed members should seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit to answer personal questions about wearing the garment. It is a sacred privilege to wear the garment and doing so is an outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ. If members have questions about wearing the garment, refer them to 38.5.5." Compared to the new blurb: "The garment of the holy priesthood reminds us of the veil in the temple, and that veil is symbolic of Jesus Christ. When you put on your garment, you put on a sacred symbol of Jesus Christ. Wearing it is an outward expression of your inner commitment to follow Him. The garment is also a reminder of your temple covenants. You should wear the garment day and night throughout your life. When it must be removed for activities that cannot reasonably be done while wearing the garment, seek to restore it as soon as possible. As you keep your covenants, including the sacred privilege to wear the garment as instructed in the initiatory ordinances, you will have greater access to the Savior’s mercy, protection, strength, and power.(Additionally, see General Handbook, 38.5.)" With the new blurb it looks like they've done what has already been done in the temple and clarifying some of the symbolic meaning of things. And they've taken out the part about members seeking guidance to answer personal questions about wearing the garment. And then reiterated the exact blessings that come from wearing the garment as instructed. Yesterday I looked at the link that it use to send people to with more questions and weirdly it said the exact same thing as the blurb they were already read, except one added paragraph that said: "Members who receive the endowment make a covenant to wear the temple garment throughout their lives." They haven't updated the online version of the handbook yet so I can't tell what they've changed in the "additionally, see" link, if anything, yet.
  3. I’m so glad they finally clarified things. It was a little contradictory in the handbook because sometimes the handbook would refer to garments as an obligation and other times as a covenant. It looks like they’re walking back the idea that we covenant to where the garment and really focusing on it being a part of, our other temple covenants and in obligation that comes when we make those. And that makes sense to me. And I cannot say enough how happy I am that they explain the purpose of the garment and that nowhere in that blurb do they connect wearing the garment with modesty.
  4. Is there something to discuss within that point or was this thread just about providing us with information? I'm not sure what your goal is.
  5. Then they should do what they believe God is telling them to do. Their feelings don't change what I believe God has told me, and mine shouldn't change what they believe God is telling them. If either of us are wrong, it will all get worked out.
  6. I completely agree with you. I'm not saying that whatever they decide to do with the money is ok, what I'm saying is that I'm not the one who holds them accountable. Other people can do what they want. I'm not in charge of judging anyone. Do I personally think that's paying tithing? No, I don't. Tithing is as much (probably more) about faith than money. There is no exercise of faith in giving 10% of my income according to my own ideas and my own requirements. Is it money well spent? Probably. Is it Christ-like to give to the poor and needy? Absolutely. Does it fulfill my requirements to God to tithe to Him? No, I don't believe so.
  7. But, where in the scriptures does it equate crying repentance to teaching that people need to clear away all the new revising of Church history that fits a pot-modern critical theory POV along with those "clamoring for doctrinal changes so they feel comfortable pursuing their fleshly, fallen desires"?
  8. But, it's just odd how the people (who never seem to have the authority or stewardship to correct anyone) telling everyone else they need to change, always believe they are the someone who is correct.
  9. I don’t disagree with you. But I’m always wary of these kind of pronouncements because inevitably what the person making the announcement seems to be saying is that “what needs to be cleared away is everyone who doesn’t believe the exact same way that I do.”
  10. I grew up in Powell and graduated from high school there. My parents still live there and we are there several times a year.
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