Peacefully

Having served as Young Women’s president during that 'nameless' period, I’m finding the new titles a bit of a jump. They seem to be trying quite hard to be profound, and I’m still deciding if they actually land well.

I hope this isn’t a precursor to resuming a 3- hr block. “This is too hard. There’s not enough time between meetings.” Pres. Oaks, “3-hr church it is.” Lol!

This is exactly what I wanted to say but you said it so much better:)

I love that show, especially Jonathan:)

Our church is no stranger to alternative lifestyles.

I wasn’t setting up a straw man, I was going with your talking point of same-sex couples not being able to procreate with each other, however they can create a family through adoption, surrogacy, etc. same as infertile heterosexual couples.

It really falls apart if you think about the straight couple in the church who can’t conceive “naturally” and end up adopting. Should they not be allowed in the temple?

Not sure I would go that far but there were racist leaders in the past.

I think an opportunity was missed to get a black man into the queue for prophet someday. I think there is some bias there, maybe subconsciously.

I have a hard time with the OT so I would pay for a copy of “Nehor Annotates the Old Testament”!

I heard that it was because too many girls would go and would outnumber the priesthood holders. Somehow that was seen as a bad thing. Maybe because the girls couldn’t perform the ordinances. Idk. In a vacuum, people make up all kinds of theories.

I ordered one to try it out. Would have been nice if this style had come out when I was younger and had skinnier arms, lol. It would have been a welcome relief in Texas. However, I am looking forward to wearing sheer sleeves with no cap showing and also less material under the arms will be nice.

Can we play virtually, lol?

Yeah, he was not on my bingo card, lol, but I approve fwiw:)

anything can happen

No, I didn’t think that:) I just wanted to make it clear to everyone, including JVW that I have no problem with whoever the prophet is, although I may disagree on some things. It isn’t even priesthood ordination, per se, it is just the fact that there are amazing women in our church who are every bit as qualified as men to be bishops, stake presidents, and even prophets, but there is no path for that. It seems very old-fashioned and out of step when women are in places of power everywhere else. I think if Joseph Smith lived today he would welcome women leaders, but maybe I think of him as being more progressive than he actually was. I need to do more study there.

Thank you, BB. I am not impugning President Nelson, at all. I greatly loved and respected him as the prophet. I’m sure I would have been excited and nervous if I met him personally. What I find sad is some in the church are excited and amazed when women are asked for their opinions at a high level. Short of a revelation, women will always be just shy of equal, no matter how hard male leaders try to include us.

If you don’t understand, I don’t have the time, patience, or inclination to explain to you what I’m “on about”. Feel free to scroll on by.

Yet the premise of the article was that he wanted a woman’s opinion and how extraordinary that was. My comment stands.

Sad really, when we have women CEOs and leaders of countries, yet we are supposed to be excited that a man in power asks our opinion. How far behind are we?

He said we need to slow down since there are so many in flight right now.

I vote for Uchtdorf and Bednar because they need to be ready to take over since Oaks seems healthier than Eyring or Holland. I know Uchtdorf already served time in the first presidency but the world has changed since then. It would also give a good balance to the First Presidency, a bit of push and pull, if you will. Just my two cents:)

I had the same thought!

I had the same experience with a bishop who rubbed me the wrong way but then I met with him one on one for my temple recommend and he was so understanding about the things I disagreed with in the church. He renewed my recommendation no problem. It’s been the same with every leader I have confided in. I mean they can’t change the rules even if they wanted to but I think they realize there are differences of opinions among the membership and it isn’t to anyone’s benefit to alienate the more “progressive” members. Hopefully, President Oaks understands this. He probably has all types of members in his own family who remind him of this.