MustardSeed

You’ve received similar feedback from multiple participants and you ignore and defend. I’m tempted to be immature and respond the way you typically respond. Instead, i will say, this site is no longer of interest for me. It’s so frustrating, in fact, that I dislike how I participate. I need to change my interactions or stop participating at all.

Define adamant. 🤣 Hes not going to return to answer this without a runaround. Why we try is a mystery to me.

In my opinion, we are absolutely puppets if God creates the change. God created life. Life creates change. We choose how we approach life and it affects who we become for better or worse. I accept that most people, especially in the church, believe that God intervenes. I do not believe this at all. But I do believe that he expects us to do our best with the dismal circumstances of our lives. Thank you for telling us this story. What a very difficult thing to endure- a pain that never diffuses. I watch people go through these kinds of losses and it’s heartbreaking the way some people navigate it, and in some ways, can it times be inspiring. Though I know nobody wants to sign up for that job to be someone else’s inspiration through pain. Thank you for sharing it

Question is not vague at all.

Exactly. It erodes trust. Everyone else knows what you’re saying, obviously. So we also recognize avoidance, and it impacts good faith assumptions when considering to engage or not to.

I’m interested in knowing your own answers to your own post.

I understand his intent. General authorities have been pressing us to pay attention to how we behave online for quite some time and it’s not working. Certainly if we were representing ourselves with our real names, we would interact much differently online in lots of ways. if we have the capacity to behave more maturely and stoop less to personal attacks and criticism and judgment, anonymity becomes a non-issue. It’s not about the name we use. But if using a fake name gives us permission in our minds to behave badly then that’s something to look at and change the behavior.

Advice to be kinder? Absolutely necessary. More christlike behavior is a crucial necessary daily pursuit of which most of us fall short. Anonymity has simply allowed the deeper flawed self to be exposed. We should probably look deeper.

My mom and I solved the problem over lunch. ditch Sunday school. But implement more scripture study into the second hour lesson. We don’t need a whole hour re reading a talk we already heard and can read again anytime

Now that we have settled in, is the new program meeting the need? Reason I ask is the SS president cornered me after church to ask how I was doing with my calling (she’s pretty intense- so I kept it short. But I’ll expand here) My experience: 1. As a Sunday school teacher, prep is way easier for me. It’s also going well for my husband who is teaching deacons- mostly very autistic boys so the shorter time is a big relief. 2. My most significant observation is less evident emotion or depth. At my day job I’ve noticed in my therapy sessions that the real meat of the session begins at 40 minutes, as it takes about 10 settle in, 20 to separate from life’s distractions, and 30 to really start to open up. When I was a kid my mom always left RS with puffy eyes, I doubt that happens now in the 25 minute whiz class- I personally haven’t yet felt a big heart tug in class, Sunday school or RS. 3. I don’t find myself studying “more” than I did before mid week- that was the intent, as it was directed to us in our multiple trainings. Reduce the amount of time, put the emphasis on class discussion, expect people to become prepared. Which will require more study at home. As a teacher, I’m not experiencing the class coming any more prepared than they were before. The same people are showing up with comments. The class is basically run by the commenters. In my class, I take the final five minutes to share a principal because the comments in our class are generally people just sharing their random thoughts. I know I’m not supposed to “teach” anymore but I just can’t let the class be run by class members who just talk about their pets every week lol- Anyway- I’m not expecting anything to change. But after months of weekly training , which was excessive, here we are doing the thing and I’m wondering if it’s doing what it was supposed to do.

He’s easy to watch for me. Interesting- Thanks

“Prove to me he was(or wasnt) sexual” is as productive to me as Amazon requesting proof that my package “did not arrive”. Marriage for legit reasons insinuates a sexual relationship more than suggesting a document only relationship. If people are concerned that perhaps joseph was sexual with a 14 year old wife, let it be. Im glad we dont allow such gross practice today.

Well, we can’t necessarily know what decisions Joseph would’ve made in his personal life in today’s climate. The decisions I make today are very different than the decisions I made just 10 years ago.

It’s hard for him to fathom, but not everybody is black-and-white

Rude

What even is the topic you wanted to get back to anyway?

You haven’t elicited anything. I offer it willingly to the board as a real life example of the very topic we are now discussing. If it is too real for you and you are uncomfortable engaging, I’m OK with that. I offer it to anyone else who might take offense, though we have not heard from anybody else who does. But should there be anyone else, I’m hoping it bridges a bit of a gap between us and offers some clarity.

- I’m sorry I didn’t intend that as personal. Please accept my apology. I’d like to scratch from the record and instead say, I find the statement to be unhelpful and false equivalent in this conversation . The gold digger comparison works, makes a LOT more sense. Regardless, let’s get back to the topic. I described my actual experience of feeling unsafe with men, would like to know what you think of it.

Returning to topic: I find walking out to a parking lot alone in the dark to 100% of the time puts me on high alert because of my experiences with men. So whenever I see a man walking towards me in that situation, I suspect that I am in danger. I never feel this way when a woman is walking towards me. Every man is suspect to me in that scenario. it’s sad because I know not all men are actually threatening, but in that scenario, I have to assume that any man is threatening. so in my mind, I’m assuming that any man approaching me in a dark parking lot is potentially very dangerous to me and so I have to quickly get in my car and lock the door and prepared to scream and kick and fight as necessary. There are zero exceptions to this, unless that man is my husband, my father my brothers or my sons. Why is this? My experiences with other humans who happen to have all been men. Unfortunate isn’t it?

I can only speak for myself and I think it’s a silly argument. I’m unaffected.

If I thought your headspace was due to women actually soliciting you on the regular as often as men cross boundaries with me, I would not be offended because I know I’m not prostitute.

Smac your thoughts plz

Returning to topic: I find walking out to a parking lot alone in the dark to 100% of the time puts me on high alert because of my experiences with men. So whenever I see a man walking towards me in that situation, I suspect that I am in danger. I never feel this way when a woman is walking towards me. Every man is suspect to me in that scenario. it’s sad because I know not all men are actually threatening, but in that scenario, I have to assume that any man is threatening. so in my mind, I’m assuming that any man approaching me in a dark parking lot is potentially very dangerous to me and so I have to quickly get in my car and lock the door and prepared to scream and kick and fight as necessary. There are zero exceptions to this, unless that man is my husband, my father my brothers or my sons. Why is this? My experiences with other humans who happen to have all been men. Unfortunate isn’t it?

Uncle