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  1. Forget about the words and just hum your part of the [eternal] round!
  2. I think that quote is attributed to Brigham Young (???) -- Let's bombard @Kenngo1969 with "Likes" (and emojis!!!) if he can confirm that!
  3. The way I see this is, if I were to receive a personal revelation about a socially-driven issue that the brethren hadn’t, I would honor it a) with a “There but for the grace of God there go I” humility, and b) avoiding the spirit of contention at all costs. This ties in with several of the nine expectations you first posted. God will either give us opportunities, or support appropriate proactive opportunities to share. Or He will tell us what He told the brother of Jared (Ether 3:21 in so many words: "Keep this to yourself."). This is why I place keeping the companionship of the Holy Ghost as the primary means to moderate expectations. On the topic of the connection between authority, ordinances, blessings and fallibility, I just happened to come across this article in the Liahona today: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2021/08/authority-ordinances-and-preparation?lang=eng A couple of pertinent quotes: “Ordinances and priesthood are inseparable. An ordinance is a sacred act of eternal significance, done with priesthood authority.” “We are surrounded by challenges on all sides, but with faith in God, we trust in the blessings He has promised those who keep His commandments and prepare.”
  4. Ha-ha, "East Meets West" -- you were near the West Village we were just 5 or blocks away from the East Village (I went to PS 61 on 12th and Avenue C). "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" -- "Practice!" // "How do you get to Carnegie Hill?" -- "By bus!" Never got mugged, but was on a stalled subway car when someone majorly freaked out when the lights went out. The last thing I saw was a movie poster for "That Darn Cat!" Funny the things we remember.
  5. Jesus pointed out where the religious leaders of His day fell short in this regard, and His teachings persist to this day in the New Testament and Book of Mormon. Should He be displeased or disappointed with the direction the Church leaders are taking today, I think He would prick their conscience as He does ours; I do not think there is a lot of difference between His means of interaction with Church leaders and with individual members, and He regards us all the same
  6. In relation to the connection (if any) between mistakes and authority, I would say that God allows "sincere mistakes" because the authority of the ordinances is His priority. He stands behind His own authority, and grants His children the agency to make mistakes. For example, the authority to bestow the Gift of the Holy Ghost allows the receiver to enjoy it to the degree they are willing, and to handle others’ mistakes with grace. The Atonement of Christ was instituted long before anyone made any mistakes (or worse), in anticipation of just that. I’m not sure what I would call my progress through life if not “increasing light and knowledge” as I’ve enjoyed the Gift of the Holy Ghost – including increased humility, empathy, faith, etc. I think these enjoyments operate within the confines of individual and collective attitudes regarding social conservatism and liberalism, and by its definition, do not impede the operation of “divine grace” individually or collectively. We do our best in good faith, and individuals are saved, and families/communities are exalted. Can we do better? Of course: I recommend a book, “The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion” by Jonathan Haidt. I would consider that the motivation to stick around is to abide the ordinances by building Zion with those who may be further ahead and further behind our level of progress. Also, to renew the ordinances (e.g., sacrament) and to get them to others (e.g., missionary ad temple activity). Covenants like tithing and ways to express them (like service, ministering and fast offerings) require transactions with the Church authorities. Testimony (knowledge) and actions (faith) need such an environment in which to grow. Can people do this without organized religion? Yes, but they would still need to organize to work together, an appeal to some authority even if moral authority alone, and a common aim and belief in achieving it. I think it helpful to speak for ourselves and act accordingly when it comes to how much light and knowledge we have acquired for the benefit of ourselves and others. That will require continued interaction with our fellow saints.
  7. We have a pagoda in our garden our back yard, but only because it looks nice. A few neighbors have asked about it .
  8. I like the episode where Ralph and Ed realize they are gods while they are initiated into the Racoon Lodge meeting.
  9. I found a TV station that shows the missing Honeymooners episodes.
  10. RE: #3, the prophets are subject to becoming a “case” (D&C 102) and in that way may need to be corrected. As far as incorrect or disavowed teachings, I think this is taken more in the attitude of increasing light and knowledge. RE: #6, a finer point (Joseph Smith): “The fundamental principles of our religion is the testimony of the apostles and prophets concerning Jesus Christ, “that he died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended up into heaven;” and all other things are only appendages to these, which pertain to our religion. But in connection with these, we believe in the gift of the Holy Ghost, the power of faith, the enjoyment of the spiritual gifts according to the will of God, the restoration of the house of Israel, and the final triumph of truth.” The “appendages” rely on the keys. RE: #7, I think one good model is related to #6, where Christ delegates the keys and His servants learn as they go in good faith (just as any member). The blessings of those keys are found in the personal ordinances we receive, and the enjoyment of these blessings are unaffected by any administrator’s imperfections. This leads to #8, in which those who become contentious may be subject to becoming a “case” (as in #3). RE: #9, the idea that “change -- when needed -- will be slow -- maybe even "late" -- when compared to society at large” is very interesting to me. I think the “when needed” and the attendant timing in themselves carry an element of expectation. I’ve heard it said that we are saved individually (the ordinances) but are exalted as families (I’ll add to that communities, as in “Zion”) as we balance individual progress with seeking each other’s welfare.
  11. I grew up in NYC, on Lower East Side Manhattan and so visiting Chinatown was a regular outing -- we could easily walk or take a bus if lazy. My mother-in-law was born and raised in Hawaii (her mother had immigrated from the Philippines), and picked up a lot of other Asian influences from there that has been passed down even to our children. Her generation was really trying to assimilate into American society, but at least the food has carried through!!! Plus taking our shoes off at the door and a few other odds and ends.
  12. I do have a number Asian (various nationalities) influences in my life, all very much Americanized, but some cultural preferences have carried through. My incorrect assumption was that @TheTanakas is a member of a (non-LDS) Christian denomination.
  13. I converted to the same Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints without having much religious involvement with any denomination, though if asked i would probably identify as Protestant Christian. I think the driver for my interest in the Church was the teaching that it is the Restored Church with Christ at the head directing modern prophets and apostles. The things I had "good feelings" about before that hadn't changed, really (peacemaking, friendship, helping someone in trouble, etc. -- and I was raised in NYC LOL!).
  14. I will try to find the references, but "wait patiently" comes to mind, as does "putting the fundamentals first." You mentioned too many things on the shelf, are these the fundamentals? I mentioned my basic testimony of the keys and the saving ordinances having been restored, which in my mind overshadow anything that might bother me about a leader's behavior or teachings. And a testimony is just knowledge by the power of the Holy Ghost, but there are also the Gift and companionship of the Holy Ghost to be maintained by faith. I think nothing helps us endure with Christ more than the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Now these may come across a simple words of encouragement, but the bottom line for me is that we can only act according to our knowledge and faith. Since the "formula" states that these are generally found in equal proportion, our introspection is often otherwise for various reasons, so then we can only make a choice to act even when they are evidently imbalanced.
  15. I’m thinking that perfect self-control would entail “listening to your body” and “trusting your body,” influenced in part by a glorious sociality with co-eternal intelligences and fellow gods. It would also entail innumerable other godly attributes, including subconscious and autonomic processes that never fail, bias, good habits and unique, innate preferences. How much self-control would a perfect body and mind require, anyway?
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