Popular Post Judd Posted December 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 8, 2023 https://www.ksl.com/article/50813592/-elder-patrick-kearon-called-to-churchs-quorum-of-the-twelve-apostles- 5
kllindley Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 Wow! Isn't this rather contrary to tradition? Not that there anything wrong with that. Just an observation. 1
rodheadlee Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, kllindley said: Wow! Isn't this rather contrary to tradition? Not that there anything wrong with that. Just an observation. Enlighten me please. 1
Buckeye Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: Enlighten me please. I think he means announcing the new apostle now instead of waiting until conference. 4
Rain Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 I loved when he gave This talk - refuge from the storm 3
SkyRock Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 He spoke at our stake conference within the last few years. He was really good. I am not overly surprised. 2
JAHS Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, kllindley said: Wow! Isn't this rather contrary to tradition? Not that there anything wrong with that. Just an observation. Normally done at conference but not always. President Gordon B. Hinckley, Elder Neal A. Maxwell and Elder Holland were called at a time other than conference, but then of course they were sustained at conference following the call 2
Calm Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buckeye said: I think he means announcing the new apostle now instead of waiting until conference. Quote Typically, new members of the quorum are announced during the church's general conference during the first weekends of April or October, but there have been exceptions. The most recent exception was when President Holland was added to the quorum on June 23, 1994, shortly after the death of President Ezra Taft Benson. From the ksl link I am not surprised since it is several months until conference. He is an adult convert, but he would have had enough opportunities to move up the calling ladder early on in his membership being outside of LDS dense areas. (He was 26 when baptized) He appears to lack the higher education that most (all?) apostles have had these days, I believe. I don’t see any references to attending college, etc that there usually are. Also on wiki Quote After his father's death, and at age 19, he gave up on additional formal education and entered the workforce. Never a bishop too….(branch president) https://speeches.byu.edu/speakers/patrick-kearon/#:~:text=Elder Patrick Kearon was born,parents remained in Saudi Arabia. Quote In the Church, Elder Kearon has served as a stake president, an assistant ward clerk, a branch president, and an area seventy. He served in the Europe Area as a member of the third quorum of the seventy and was named a member of the presidency of the seventy in 2017. In this capacity, he supervised the North America West and Northwest Areas as well as the Europe and Europe East Areas. On December 7, 2023, he was called and ordained as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. His service in the Church has spanned many years and touched countless lives. Edited December 8, 2023 by Calm 2
gopher Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 I hope he doesn't use his new powers to get revenge on the family of the scorpion that stung him when he was younger. Actually, that might make a good movie. 2
juliann Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 He is an excellent choice. I’m very happy with this. 3
Calm Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, JAHS said: Normally done at conference but not always. President Gordon B. Hinckley, Elder Neal A. Maxwell and Elder Holland were called at a time other than conference, but then of course they were sustained at conference following the call The handbook allows for exceptions at the ward level. Quote "In some cases, a brother may need to be ordained an elder or high priest before he can be presented in stake conference. When this happens, he is presented in his ward sacrament meeting for sustaining. He is then presented in the next stake conference to ratify the ordination (adapting the process for sustaining, described above). This includes giving stake members an opportunity to sustain or oppose the action." Following this logic, the Quorom of 12 probably sustained him when ordained.
Ginger Snaps Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 I loved his April 22 talk on overcoming abuse. 3
Calm Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 Also https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-patrick-kearon-called-quorum-of-the-twelve-apostles He just spoke at BYU Hawaii https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJhLQ_FcxU8
smac97 Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, kllindley said: Wow! Isn't this rather contrary to tradition? Yes, it's unusual, but not unheard of: Quote His calling marks the first time an apostle has been called outside of an international general conference of the church since President Jeffrey R. Holland was called to the Twelve in June 1994 after the death of President Ezra Taft Benson. Thanks, -Smac 1
Popular Post Calm Posted December 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 8, 2023 Now I officially feel old. An Apostle who is younger than I am. Ugh…. 5
Stormin' Mormon Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Two weeks ago, I made some predictions to some close friends about who the next Apostle would be. I used three criteria: foreign born, at least 10 years as a GA, and under the age of 65. Based on those criteria, I predicted that the next Apostle would be one of three individuals. Elder Kearon was on my short list. I also correctly predicted Elders Wong and Soares to these same friends. They now think I have some sort of preeminent prognosticating prowess. I don't. Excited to hear more from Elder Kearon (and his soothing accent) over the next several decades. 4
Stormin' Mormon Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Calm said: Now I officially feel old. An Apostle who is younger than I am. Ugh…. I've been dreading that day. Still another decade or two off, but approaching... 1
Stormin' Mormon Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, smac97 said: Yes, it's unusual, but not unheard of: Thanks, -Smac That's hilarious. In his last General Conference talk, Elder Kearon claimed HE WAS Elder Holland.
Kenngo1969 Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, bluebell said: It’s kind of cool that he’s a convert. I'll see your "kind of," and raise it to "way"! 😎 2
MiserereNobis Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Congratulations to your church! (though if he’s an Irish convert you probably stole him from Catholicism! 😂) 3
Nofear Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 of particular note to me: he has lived and worked in Saudi Arabia. Not many on the general authority or officer list can claim much exp'rience with the Middle East. 2
Calm Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nofear said: of particular note to me: he has lived and worked in Saudi Arabia. Not many on the general authority or officer list can claim much exp'rience with the Middle East. I noted that too, good time to have that experience…
kllindley Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, rodheadlee said: Enlighten me please. Just the calling before the next General Conference. I would have been 9 when Elder Holland was called. Edited December 9, 2023 by kllindley 1
kllindley Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Buckeye said: I think he means announcing the new apostle now instead of waiting until conference. That's exactly it. Thanks!
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