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  1. Hi. From the current Catholic Catechism. Bold is mine: Now, there are certainly Catholics who think differently, but that doesn't negate the official teaching of the Church. The Catholic Church is the sole Church of Christ. The Church of Christ was given to the Apostles, with Peter at the head, and is governed today by the Pope and Bishops in communion with him. The Catechism goes on to say that the protestant "reformation" wounded the unity of the Church of Christ: Catholicism does not deny that protestants are Christian. It also doesn't deny that there is truth and
  2. Hmm. I have come into contact with JS and the Restoration. So has @3DOP. We both have voted nay. But I don't consider us your enemies and you my enemies, and I don't see us engaged in a battle to the death. Unless behind our backs and off the board you guys are all planning our assassinations Also, you have come into contact with Roman Catholic Church. Do you have a neutral position on her? I assume you have voted nay. Thus there is nothing unique about people taking a position on the LDS church. But perhaps you mean something else by "come into contact with"?
  3. Well, technically he was already enlightened and then he heard the voice of the God Brahma telling him to go teach his path
  4. Actually, in the Catholic world, a traditional Catholic is one who participates in the traditional liturgy prior to the 1970 changes promulgated by Pope Paul VI after the 2nd Vatican Council. There is a wide spectrum of traditional Catholics -- some simply prefer the traditional liturgy, some find defects in the new liturgy, and some reject the new liturgy all together (and then you can go further with those who claim that there is currently no valid pope, but I don't consider them Catholic, so I won't call them traditional Catholic). Here is a sacred moment from the traditional Mass:
  5. I've said it before. Ahab is the best troll because he doesn't realize he's trolling, which makes it so much harder to not respond to him. He's like the Manchurian candidate of trolls.
  6. I don't think it's unreasonable for Catholics to be upset about the picture. It's a symbol from another religion placed on our liturgical books. It's not anti-mormon to be upset about it. I'd be upset about any non-Catholic symbol being used on a liturgical book. I'm going to add, too, that if it were just an angel (not Moroni), I still wouldn't want it on the books. It doesn't feel Catholic at all. As 3DOP pointed out, it's indicative of the problems with the new Mass -- there's a subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) rejection of the great history and tradition of Catholic liturgy and ov
  7. I'm not entirely sure. That's a question for the LDS to answer. My guess is no. From what I understand, praying the rosary wouldn't be acceptable. Lighting a candle and praying to a Catholic Saint probably not, either. There are other practices, too, I'm sure. I don't mean this at all as a criticism of the LDS faith overall. I'm specifically referring to the idea, espoused by Hinkley and others on this thread, that the LDS church welcomes good and righteousness from wherever it comes. My criticism is that the phrase sounds different than the application. It sounds inclusionary, but the pr
  8. Sure, but that's an adaptation. My point is that something that is good and righteous in my life is not acceptable in an LDS life. So if I were to convert, I couldn't bring "the good" I already have and let the LDS church add to it. "The good" I can bring with me has to already match up with the LDS church's good. Again, Hinkley's statement sounds nice, but it doesn't really mean what it sounds like. What really happens is that a convert keeps what good matches the LDS good, discards the rest, and then the LDS church adds to the convert. Maybe like this: LDS church has: A C E G I Non
  9. The rosary is primarily made up of Hail Mary's. I guess I'm assuming that praying to the Blessed Virgin Mary using the Hail Mary prayer would be unacceptable to LDS. There is also a recitation of the Apostle's Creed and some Our Father's.
  10. Great! Let me mail you a rosary and you can get started on it. It is a very righteous practice -- I'm glad you don't reject it. Joking aside, here's my problem with your statement. It's the same problem I have with President Hinkley's (I think?) statement that non-LDS can bring their good to the LDS church and the LDS church will just add to it. Statements like these sound ecumenical and inclusive, but that's not what practiced. Why don't you pray the rosary? Why don't you pray to Mecca? Why don't you practice tantric yabyum? Because you don't consider these religious practices righteous,
  11. My deepest condolences, USU. I cannot know the pain, but I wish you didn't have it. It's a Catholic prayer for those who have passed, but I think LDS will find it acceptable: "Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace."
  12. William Faulkner
  13. Catholicism handles this nicely by allowing confession and first communion around the age of 7
  14. Can you help me understand the process here. A person resigns from the LDS church, I'm assuming by letter or some such. How does that cancel their baptism, temple marriage, etc? A ceremony gave the baptism and marriage, how does a letter or phone call get rid of it? The latter seems bureaucratic -- taking a name off of a membership list. How does that connect to the former -- a religious rite? I'm curious as to your theology here. I'm not being critical of it.
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