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  1. You are certainly not the only one in this conversation doing this, but I find it ironic that it is okay with many that violence and looting are happening because it is only being done by a small percentage of those involved. But if anyone points out that the violence done by police officers is only done by a small percentage of police officers it is either racist, irrelevant, or apologetics because ACAB. According to many, it is not enough to condemn the wrong actions of a few bad LEOs. We have to advocate burning the system down. We've been told that to anyone who chooses to wear a police u
  2. I guess you know better than anyone else. Good for you.
  3. Neither, apparently, does this guy: "We join with many throughout this nation and around the world who are deeply saddened at recent evidences of racism and a blatant disregard for human life. We abhor the reality that some would deny others respect and the most basic of freedoms because of the color of his or her skin. We are also saddened when these assaults on human dignity lead to escalating violence and unrest. The Creator of us all calls on each of us to abandon attitudes of prejudice against any group of God’s children. Any of us who has prejudice toward another race need
  4. So you're saying this guy doesn't see very clearly. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/s-not-going-bring-my-brother-back-george-floyd-s-n1221306?fbclid=IwAR2kPjXRDSplcoZduN7pulqq9xMSLxFPNXIt0XTW3ADxvhsyH7JbXzzEvlc “First of all, first of all,” Terrence Floyd said. "If I’m not over here wilin’ out, if I’m not over here blowing up stuff, if I’m not over here messing up my community — then what are y’all doing? Nothing, because that’s not going to bring my brother back at all." "So let’s do this another way," he said. "Let’s stop thinking that our voice don’t matter and vote…because
  5. This largely reflects my own view and it is very well written.
  6. I agree that this is a very important point.
  7. Here is a very well written and thoughtful article on the situation: https://latterdaysaintmag.com/letter-to-an-activist-byu-professor-and-those-youre-confusing/ A few relevant quotes: I very much agree with the perspective that it is more reasonable to believe that rather than encouraging or endorsing, this represents a more personalized approach to discipleship. I'm surprised that the changes to the missionary standards haven't been similarly heralded as a sign of greater enlightenment. But as Jacob explains, this has a lot more to do with the assumptions we bring to
  8. As I said, I believe you don't mean to, and don't want to. I know that you both have expressed respect for my life decisions in the past. And I appreciate that. I am sorry I did not adequately communicate that in my initial post. I also know that we've had this discussion before. I've expressed that for me and many of my close friends in similar situations, members hoping for same-sex marriage to be accepted by the Church feels like a dismissal of our choices and experiences, because without the clear teaching and doctrine, we likely would not have had adequate information to make t
  9. @rockpond and @ALarson Just a reminder that in your zeal to be inclusive to same-sex couples, you also alienate and marginalize those LGBT members who are responding to their experience with faith and conviction in the Restored Gospel. Of course, that is your right. Based on past interactions, I'm sure you will insist that you don't mean to do so. I mostly believe you are sincere. Unfortunately, that does nothing to mitigate the judgement and rejection I feel from you.
  10. Personally, I always thought that #3 was what happened based on the history and scripture you quoted.
  11. I disagree based on both personal and professional experience. I'm grateful that I was able to explore changes in my behavior with a therapist before this rule became effective. Or are you only responding to the attraction aspect?
  12. It really depends what sort of metric you are using to determine success. There really isn't an operational definition for sexual orientation. Are you talking attraction? Does a change from 5 to 4 or 4 to 3 on the Kinsey Scale count as change? Because we see that a lot, with and without therapy. I've even seen 6 to 3 or 4 to 2. From 6 to 0? Yeah not so much. But even if a youth wants to explore with their therapist whether it is possible to develop opposite sexual attractions- that will now be prohibited under the new rule. Behavior? There change becomes much more possible. From 6 (exclu
  13. Full back up here. You are not crazy. If he doesn't retract, I'm going to report it. It's very unfair to try to blame you for his failure to communicate.
  14. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2000/10/the-challenge-to-become?lang=eng Also: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1995/10/same-gender-attraction?lang=eng
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