Kenngo1969

💲💲💲💵💵💵💲💲💲 Surely, you've heard the many sordid tales of how Mr. [Oh, excuse me: Dr.] Dehlin treats those who he thinks are threats to The Empire, haven't you?

You rang?

One of my Bishops was Elder Albert Choules Jr., formerly of the Second Quorum of the Seventy when there were only two such quorums, and when, by and large, the call to the second of them was for five years' duration. And, of course, as I'm sure many here know well, it is not uncommon for former General Authorities to be "repurposed" as, say, Temple Presidents.

While I appreciate your acknowledgment, I don't know that there are any Latter-day Saints on this thread who contend that science doesn't know anything. P.S.: While I understand what you are saying, a moment of reflecting further reminds me that "science" isn't a self-existent, self-aware, sentient entity that is capable of "knowing" anything: Humans know (and don't know) things; science does not. And not all science is created equal: There is sound science; sound science based on the data that, currently, is available; and unsound science.

To borrow and slightly alter something Hamlet said (the word "philosophy" in the quote below has been replaced with the word "science") ... “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your science.” —Hamlet to Horatio in Hamlet, Act I, Scene 5

I'm sure that, indeed, the ruckus they make is raucous! Just sayin'! (In fact, like you, come to think of it, I have experienced that firsthand. A few years ago, I sang in a regional choir in General Conference. "Walking the gauntlet" while leaving Conference, with sister missionaries and youth groups and their leaders singing the songs of Zion on one side of us and street screechers yellin' about how we were going to hell on the other side of us was ... interesting! )

I love how the caption of the case is truncated: Gaddy v. Corp. of the President of the Church of Jesus (23-4110)

Dang! For an Aussie, you certainly do know a lot about accessing U.S. court records! Good on ya, Mate!

Ms. Gaddy believes that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints misled her and other [potential] Plaintiffs similarly situated, because events in the founding narrative of the Church did not take place exactly in the way depicted in the Church's artwork.

As Festus Doofus, Ph.D., the noted Professor of English at the University of Southern Nowhar, put it, "Foreword, forward! Oh, them near-homophones! They's tricky thangs!" (Come to think of it, maybe your Auto Complete or Auto Correct or Voice to Text function has betrayed you here. I hate it when that happens! )

Happy [pending?] 124th anniversary! I admire couples who have been able to stick it out through thick and thin for that long!

The calling of bishop is a challenging one, and it takes some time for those who are called to find their footing and to get up to speed with everything they are supposed to be doing (and how to do it) in the calling. As much as some people who receive the calling might breathe a sigh of relief and say, "Well, at least it's only for three years ," I would be surprised if, in many cases, bishops who are perfectly candid about the matter were not to admit that it took them three years, or almost that long, to reach that point.

Maybe I will get a world ... someday. Right now, I'm focused more on getting 100 percent ministering.* *Yes, I know that ministering is more about saving and exalting souls than it is about statistics.

My cousin went to an interview with his Stake President with a can of beer, a pack of chewing tobacco, and a pack of cigarettes in his briefcase. He opened the briefcase and told the Stake President, "Now, I don't use any of these ... but I could!" He got called as a bishop anyway. He died way too soon. He was only about five years older than I am. (See you soon, Wayne ... but not too soon!)

And another difference is that God is much better at playing "the long game," and His timetable is much, much different than Satan's, or than that of us myopic mortals. While we are certain that if whatever changes we believe should or must happen by a certain "date certain" haven't happened by that date, the only remaining alternative is to throw in the towel, God works in a much different way: "God moves in a mysterious way His wonders to perform. He plants his footsteps in the sea and rides upon the storm." William Cowper, "God Moves in a Mysterious Way," Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1985), no. 285. And of course, we're all familiar with Isaiah 55:8-9: I really like this, from Joseph Grenny, in relation to Jacob's Allegory of the Olive Tree. https://latterdaysaintmag.com/jacobs-answer-to-parental-despair/, this and all other links last accessed April 18, 2024. The compression of the story fools us into believing that all of the events it describes happen in relatively short order when that is not the case. One of the things he mentions is that olive trees are notoriously slow-growing and slow-maturing. Reportedly, there are olive trees alive today that were alive in the Savior's time. Brother Grenny notes: As much as I believe what happens and what we do here in mortality has an impact on eternity, this is not the only place, the only time, and the only circumstance under which what we do will have an impact on eternity. As Joseph Smith said: History of the Church, 6:306–7; from a discourse given by Joseph Smith on Apr. 7, 1844, in Nauvoo, Illinois; reported by Wilford Woodruff, Willard Richards, Thomas Bullock, and William Clayton, as quoted in Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith (2007) at 268, accessed at https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-joseph-smith/chapter-22?lang=eng.

Me? I have only 2.96750325 problems! So there!

Stole my thunder! That's the scripture I thought of, also.

Not trying to start a board war or anything, but I do think that this, from the inimitable, estimable Dan Peterson merits mention, and may be germane to this discussion: *It should be noted, also, that while this particular effort is not, strictly speaking, "charitable" as that word usually is defined in the sense that it refers to something that contributes to alleviating human suffering or improving the human condition in some way, the genealogical efforts of the Church of Jesus Christ benefit those who are members of the Church and those who are not alike.

And ... with trolls!

Good luck!

That was fast. If memory serves, it used to take about a week.

Superkuhl, meiner Bruder!

President Russell M. Nelson Presidents Oaks and Nelson were called together into the Twelve forty years ago, April 7, 1984 There were six functioning Temples in the Church of Jesus Christ when Pres. Nelson was born The Kirtland Temple has unusual significance in the Restoration; events occurred there that were prophesied for millennia Visitations at the Kirtland Temple dedication The Savior: “I Am the First and the Last, I am He who liveth, I am he who was slain; I am your advocate with the Father” “I will manifest myself unto My people in mercy in this House”; This promise applies to every dedicated temple today Moses – Conferred upon Joseph the keys of the Gathering of Israel, restoration of Lost Ten Tribes Elijah’s appearance fulfilled Malachi’s promise: He conferred keys of sealing power upon Joseph Smith Priesthood keys constitute the authority and power of presidency; they govern how the Lord’s power may be used to bring to pass His purposes Keys of Gathering of Israel Keys of Gospel of Abraham Keys of Sealing Power These keys authorize Gathering of Israel on both sides of the veil Power of Priesthood Keys is infinite and breathtaking Without keys: Endowment would be impossible Church would be only a teaching and humanitarian organization No access to ordinances and covenants that bind us to each other and to God Many organizations make life better in mortality, but only one can open the gateway to blessings after death Let us rejoice that Priesthood keys are once again on the earth Evidence of God’s Love The gathering of Israel is evidence that God loves His children The Gospel of Abraham is further evidence that God loves all of his children everywhere The Sealing power is supernal evidence of how much God loves all of His children everywhere, and wants all of them to return to Him We should study Kirtland Temple Dedicatory Prayer in Section 109 House of prayer, fasting faith, glory, order, God This is a promise of what will happen to those who worship in the Temple Many blessings will come to you as you attend the Temple: Time in the Temple will help you “Think Celestial” and to be reminded of who you really are, who you can become In the Temple, we are promised a fullness of the Holy Ghost What courage does it give you to know that angels will help you? No combination of wickedness will prevail over those who worship in the House of the Lord Nothing will help you more to hold fast to the iron rod than worshiping in the Temple as frequently as your circumstances will permit; nothing will open the Heavens more … Nothing! Temples – French Polynesia, Chihuaha, Florianopolis, BZ Rosario, Brisbane AUS, Victoria BC, Yuma AZ, Houston TX South, Des Moines IA, Cincinatti OH, Honolulu HI, West Jordan UT, Lehi UT, Maracaibo VZ

Mark L. Pace, Sunday School General President Your daily connection with God and with His Word through “Come, Follow Me” has profound consequences The Holy Ghost fills our souls with joy and converts us into lifelong disciples of Jesus Christ In every dispensation, God has restored His Gospel, which is followed with joy for a time by His Children Dispensations: Enoch, Abraham, Moses, Noah, others This dispensation, however, will not end in apostasy, and will usher in the Second Coming of Christ The Scriptures, especially the Book of Mormon, are key While there will never again be a general apostasy, we need to guard against individual apostasy Sometimes reading the Book of Mormon is simply about being nourished, strengthened and fortified for the challenges of the day, or being healed from the wounds of the day We improve our teaching at church by improving our learning at home: “Both are edified and rejoice together” “Preserve these plates”; “We obtain a hope and our faith becometh unshaken” We obtained records and searched them, and found that they were of great worth unto us and unto our children Just as it was wisdom for Lehi’s children to have the scriptures, the same is true for us The most important copy of the Book of Mormon is the personal copy that we read Lehi’s vision of the tree of life: “They stood as though they knew not whither they should go”; “They did come unto me and partake of the fruit” “Mark, do you know for yourself by the Holy Ghost that the Gospel is true?” “I needed to act and to know for myself” “Heavenly Father wants you to know for yourself, but you must put in the effort … Heavenly Father will answer your prayers” “It was wisdom in the Lord that we should carry the records with us” We can all come to the Tree of Life by holding fast to the Rod of Iron: President Russell M. Nelson has so promised us