Kenngo1969

I wonder, at some point, will proceedings [or the work product thereof] be put up on Interpreter's Website? Hope so! 👍 P.S.: Yup! See here [scroll past the photo of the Spencer W. Kimball Tower for news of the proceedings of the "Confernce" ]: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2026/05/yup-the-interpreter-foundation-is-still-clearly-defunct.html

I think this is an insightful, valuable contribution to the discussion. I only agree with it 1000%, however. https://latterdaysaintmag.com/an-open-letter-to-the-mayor-of-fairview-texas/

I'm pretty confident we'll never kick you out ... As long as you behave yourself!

Ditto, that! https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/toward-interreligious-oneness/

My story is from the Dallas Morning Snooze, regarding the Fairview Temple.

Different source, different story.

I'm disinclined to defend everything I have interjected here. My foregoing comments were necessary to enable me to post [almost] all of the story. (Reposting something wholesale ist verboten. Reposting it with commentary is Fair Use (see 17 U.S.C. § 107)).

I don't think this has been posted yet. Town leaders are eliding the fact that they wish to renege on what was already agreed to. I think they simply want to yank the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints around as though it is a bull with a ring in its nose. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/faith/article/fairview-lds-temple-town-leaders-plead-22253478.php?utm_campaign=CMS Sharing Tools (Premium)&utm_source=share-by-email&utm_medium=email

Never say die! Onward and upward! They should appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court! I'm sure the Court would take it, and would be more than eager to remedy this manifest miscarriage of justice!

Here's a good synopsis of the decision of the Wyoming Supreme Court regarding the suit by Protect Our Cody Neighborhoods: Source: https://www.casemine.com/commentary/us/wyoming-supreme-court-clarifies-finality-&-voting-standards-for-municipal-planning-decisions/view, last accessed May 9, 2026.

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Indeed, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has "specific long-term obligations ... catastrophic risk planning, [and] a major future mission purpose." While, from a certain perspective, I can understand why someone might wonder what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks the Church is doing, those with an eye of faith, perhaps, can see that a bit more clearly.

@cujo22 Your mileage varies, obviously, and that's fine. (Hell, people probably ignore me even when my contributions don't include AI, so I'll just add you to the [long] list! ) For my part [and for the most part] I find that when it comes to AI, "GIGO" ["Garbage In, Garbage Out"] applies. The better and more detailed the question, in general, the better the answer. Caveat lector. To each, one's own. To each, one's own.

I just glanced at it, but, Man, this looks really good! It's so easy to lose the plot in Isaiah ... "Where are we, again? Who's speaking? What's he saying?" ... but this looks like it fixes all of that! I'm in! P.S.: You might want to consider changing your thread title: The book is not on Isaiah, it is Isaiah! (Just a thought ...)

For what it's worth, I queried our friend (and the font of all knowledge! ), Google Gemini, as follows: Here is how Gemini responded: P.S.: Pragmatism and ethics?! Hmmm! I wonder what our friend, @Mfbnew would have to say about that?!

Clearing his throat and asking for donations ... We're up to six minutes already! No wonder his videos are so long!

Takes him three minutes just to clear his throat, doesn't it?

I'm sure it would be quite an ambitious undertaking, but I wonder if there are any plans afoot to replicate this idea beyond the so-called "Mormon Corridor." I think that would be pretty cool, but, regardless, it's cool that it's in SLC.

In Meridian Magazine, Steve Densley, an attorney, has commentary that is very helpful regarding the [attempted] interaction between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, on the one hand; and John Dehlin/Open Stories Foundation/Etc., on the other. It discusses the whole "victory for Satan" allegation and attempts to provide context for when the Church of Jesus Christ and its leaders might find the use of the word "Mormon" objectionable and when they likely will not (e.g., the "I'm a Mormon" campaign sponsored by the Church of Jesus Christ itself). Brother Densley recaps what leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ, including later-President Russell M. Nelson, who had been speaking on the subject since at least 1990, themselves have had to say on the topic, since at least 1979. President Gordon B. Hinckley cited then-Elder Nelson's address from April 1990 approvingly in his address from October of that year, "'Mormon' Should Mean 'More Good.'" Brother Densley's article supplies much needed context, I think. I commend it to anyone who is sincerely interested in the topic. https://latterdaysaintmag.com/protecting-the-symbols-of-christs-church-how-a-trademark-lawsuit-aligns-with-prophetic-guidance/

Except that Doctrine and Covenants 77 specifically identifies the 144,000 as High Priests ordained to administer the Gospel (in its broader [or narrower, if you prefer] context, I suppose it could be concluded that missionaries "administer" the Gospel, but I've always thought [perhaps erroneously] that the "administration" performed by the 144,000 is a bit broader than that). For what it's worth, I asked Gemini: Here is its response: Elders vs. High Priests While both Elders and High Priests hold the Melchizedek Priesthood, the distinction in this specific doctrinal context is significant: The Office: The revelation explicitly names the office of High Priest. In Latter-day Saint administration, the office of High Priest is generally associated with a calling to preside and hold specific administrative or spiritual oversight. The Mission: The 144,000 are described as being "ordained out of every nation" to a specific mission of gathering and administering the "everlasting gospel." Summary According to the interpretive framework of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation are High Priests ordained to the holy order of God for a specific global ministry in the latter days. While Elders hold the same Priesthood (Melchizedek), the scriptural definition in D&C 77 specifies the higher office.

Previously posted by @Calm: For what it's worth, I asked our friend, Google Gemini, specifically, what relief the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is seeking in appealing to these legal provisions. My question/prompt appears immediately below, followed by Gemini's response [of course, I make absolutely no claim that Gemini's assessment of the legalities here is correct, but, for a relatively straightforward query ("What's in each of these legal provisions ... ?") I have no reason to doubt it]:

From the Amazon summary of Kay Burningham's book, as posted by @Smac97: I wonder who wrote this Amazon summary. If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Ms. Burningham. I always thought I kinda sucked at math, but Ms. Burningham [or at least Ms. Burningham's "summary writer"] makes me feel better, 'cause she [or her "summary writer"] sucks even worse: The "second two-thirds"? How many thirds are there in a whole? I always thought that there were three thirds in a whole that has been divided into thirds, but, apparently, in Ms. Burningham's world [or in her "summary writer's" world], there are at least four thirds in a whole that has been divided into thirds, since that's the only way there could be a "second two-thirds." Buuuuuuut ... I digress ... Aaaaaaaaanyway ... Or, as we say here in Yew-taw, "Aaaaaaaaanyways ..." ("Oh, come on, Ken! Don't be such a pedant! You're the only one who cares about such things! Clearly, she [or her summary writer] simply meant the last two-thirds ... Yeah, yeah!) Also, with no disrespect to @smac97 , who is a proud graduate of JRCLS, Ms. Burningham kinda makes me feel not so bad, as well, that JRCLS didn't accept me!

Welp, everybody has to make a livin' ... somehow!

I was attempting to extend an olive branch to you, for what little I now realize that was worth. I should have known that you'd simply beat me about the head with it. Lesson learned! Thanks very much!

Your mileage may vary, not valid in all areas, void where prohibited, restrictions apply, see local retailer for details, but ... extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.