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  1. There's a big difference in the mark of red on the forehead (self-imposed) versus the skin of blackness (presumably covering the entire body) which God imposed on the Lamanites so they would not be enticing onto the Nephites.
  2. What removes the curse incurred via childbirth that you mentioned?
  3. Isn't the blame ultimately on the devil and Adam and Eve according to Mosiah 16:3? "For they are carnal and devilish, and the devil has power over them; yea, even that old serpent that did beguile our first parents, which was the cause of their fall; which was the cause of all mankind becoming carnal, sensual, devilish, knowing evil from good, subjecting themselves to the devil".
  4. What penalty was incurred by Adam and Eve?
  5. Meaning that Nephi's first blessing was contingent upon the disobedience of others.
  6. Hello, Would you help me understand these verses. 2 Nephi 1:28-29 says "And now my son, Laman, and also Lemuel and Sam, and also my sons who are the sons of Ishmael, behold, if ye will hearken unto the voice of Nephi ye shall not perish. And if ye will hearken unto him I leave unto you a blessing, yea, even my first blessing". "But if ye will not hearken unto him I take away my first blessing, yea, even my blessing, and it shall rest upon him". What is this first blessing that would be upon Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and the sons of Ishmael at the same time if
  7. The seraphim are described as having six wings (Isaiah 6:1–4) and what others believe are cherubs have four wings (Ezekiel 1:1-10; 10:5).
  8. Yes. Some beings like seraphims and cherubim.
  9. Are there angels in heaven who are not spirit children of heavenly parents?
  10. "There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones—Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory" Are these spirit offspring a third type or do they classify as the second type?
  11. Thank you for that extra addition. Maybe Lehi really left Bethlehem or some other town that was "at Jerusalem"?
  12. @theplains @InCognitus From what I see mentioned in the Book of Mormon, the terms "land of Jerusalem", "city of Jerusalem", and "Jerusalem" are synonymous. See attached. Jerusalem.pdf
  13. I agree with you but the scenario of a "maybe" is not an option when the Plan of Salvation says "Death will not change your personality or your desire for good or evil"
  14. What I meant was if death does not change one's personality or one's desire for good or evil (as the Plan of Salvation states), then you have some people who are resurrected with their desire for evil intact. If they had an evil personality in death, then they will continue to have an evil personality in the resurrection.
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