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  1. There's a big difference in the mark of red on the forehead (self-imposed) versus the skin of blackness (presumably covering the entire body) which God imposed on the Lamanites so they would not be enticing onto the Nephites.
  2. What removes the curse incurred via childbirth that you mentioned?
  3. Isn't the blame ultimately on the devil and Adam and Eve according to Mosiah 16:3? "For they are carnal and devilish, and the devil has power over them; yea, even that old serpent that did beguile our first parents, which was the cause of their fall; which was the cause of all mankind becoming carnal, sensual, devilish, knowing evil from good, subjecting themselves to the devil".
  4. What penalty was incurred by Adam and Eve?
  5. Meaning that Nephi's first blessing was contingent upon the disobedience of others.
  6. Hello, Would you help me understand these verses. 2 Nephi 1:28-29 says "And now my son, Laman, and also Lemuel and Sam, and also my sons who are the sons of Ishmael, behold, if ye will hearken unto the voice of Nephi ye shall not perish. And if ye will hearken unto him I leave unto you a blessing, yea, even my first blessing". "But if ye will not hearken unto him I take away my first blessing, yea, even my blessing, and it shall rest upon him". What is this first blessing that would be upon Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and the sons of Ishmael at the same time if
  7. The seraphim are described as having six wings (Isaiah 6:1–4) and what others believe are cherubs have four wings (Ezekiel 1:1-10; 10:5).
  8. Yes. Some beings like seraphims and cherubim.
  9. Are there angels in heaven who are not spirit children of heavenly parents?
  10. "There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones—Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory" Are these spirit offspring a third type or do they classify as the second type?
  11. Thank you for that extra addition. Maybe Lehi really left Bethlehem or some other town that was "at Jerusalem"?
  12. @theplains @InCognitus From what I see mentioned in the Book of Mormon, the terms "land of Jerusalem", "city of Jerusalem", and "Jerusalem" are synonymous. See attached. Jerusalem.pdf
  13. I agree with you but the scenario of a "maybe" is not an option when the Plan of Salvation says "Death will not change your personality or your desire for good or evil"
  14. What I meant was if death does not change one's personality or one's desire for good or evil (as the Plan of Salvation states), then you have some people who are resurrected with their desire for evil intact. If they had an evil personality in death, then they will continue to have an evil personality in the resurrection.
  15. Page 14 of the same booklet gives these definitions of the Terrestrial and Telestial kingdom. I will put an emphasis with square brackets. Let me know if I am understanding it correctly based on what I inserted. Terrestrial kingdom - People who refuse to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ [in the spirit world] but who live honorable lives [in their mortal life] will receive a place in the terrestrial kingdom. Telestial kingdom - Those who continue in their sins [and die] and do not repent [in the spirit world] will receive a place in the telestial kingdom. If I have i
  16. What of the passage on page 12 of The Plan of Salvation? - "Death will not change your personality or your desire for good or evil". Will you still have people in the terrestrial and telestial kingdoms desiring evil?
  17. While I am not addressing your question directly, I think the parable of the laborers in the vineyard (Matthew 20:1-16) might apply. Those who started working earlier thought it unfair that they would get the same wages as those who entered the field late in the day. We never know when our life will end, so we should always be prepared. Hebrews 3:15 - To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
  18. deleted my post as the context of my reply was wrong.
  19. I believe so. But I would add that it might be only to those whom God knew would have accepted it. I don't believe those who rejected the gospel or accepted a false gospel will have a second chance after death.
  20. No, I am not a member. Thank you for that information. I just saw things written in other parts of the Book of Mormon that said differently.
  21. When I read these passages, the wicked do not accept the gospel after death. Alma 34:35 - "For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked". Alma 40:13-14 - "And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who are evil -- for behold, they have no part nor portion of
  22. Why would the wicked people who rejected the prophets (and possibly stoned/killed them too) later accept new messengers in the spirit world?
  23. Introductory notes to 3 Nephi 1 "And Helaman was the son of Helaman, who was the son of Alma, who was the son of Alma, being a descendant of Nephi who was the son of Lehi, who came out of Jerusalem in the first year of the reign of Zedekiah, the king of Judah".
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