Bernard Gui

The repeated use of "after" in 1 Nephi 10:2-14 does indeed create an interesting gradation. I have previously stated that not all the examples are textbook as we define them, but I don't expect them to be. They come from Nephite minds, not ours. Another interesting example of stair-step or parallel gradation is used to communicate something important. It is offset from its surroundings, an instructional aside to those who do not believe in Christ. Mormon intentionally leads the reader through the basic concepts of the plan of salvation in a logical gradated sequence using repeated words or phrases. It is not copied from the Bible, meaning Joseph did not borrow or adapt it from preexisting scripture. It is a real rhetorical gradated figure that appears in a doctrinal and instructional context. It is clearly parallel with the teachings of the temple endowment: Pre-mortal existence, Creation, Fall of Adam, Redemption through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, Return to the Presence of God, the Resurrection, Judgement, and Punishment or Salvation. It is a concise and masterful summation of the Plan. It clearly reflects what is discussed in LDS temple ordinances, but I believe, as per Hugh Nibley, that this teaching precedes both the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith's revelation of the Endowment. This knowledge has been around since the Council in Heaven. We shouldn't be surprised that it shows up in a variety of times and places. I don't think we need to be bothered about which came first.

Always love the comments when they are respectful and on topic. Always have, always will.

I’m not sure what you mean there was no reference to the source. I posted this in the OP: “Reading 3 Nephi 27 this week, I came across yet another example of stair-step parallelism, or anadiplosis. In this poetic form, words or phrases are repeated in a progressing sequence that leads to a conclusion: AABBCCDDEE…..… XXXXXXX…Here is the one I have found in 3 Nephi 17:13-22.…” As Ben aptly pointed out, I used the term “anadiplosis” inappropriately. That has been corrected. This thread is about yet another gradated or stair-step parallelism in the Book of Mormon (28 so far) not about chiasmus. IMO Narrator’s comment right off the bat is a derail…. “There has been some recent scholarship arguing that instead of an intentional form of writing, chiasmus is a natural result of memory retrieval due to how the brain stores and recollects information in oral presentations, which explains why chiasmus is present in virtually all ancient cultures but began to disappear as writing and technology replaced orality. In other words, rather than being a tool for memory, it's product of memory.“ You and Narrator may not agree, but I would be happy to participate in a discussion of his making on the matter of chiasmus, autism, or memory, and I asked him politely to do that. My hope was to discuss 3 Nephi 27:13-22. The subsequent comments bear this out…. No, I’m not concerned about non-spiritual sources. Saying “Let me fix this for you” is condescending and insulting.

“Let me fix it for you” is condescending and insulting. Make your comments without the insults, please.

Not in the least. That’s why I always ask for comments. I appreciate Ben’s comments about the term that I was using incorrectly and will make the necessary changes. Longview merely posted a chiasmus he found interesting. It was you who pursued the derail. That bothers me because as you can see here we are on the side track.

How about making your point without the insult?

Thank you for the thoughtful correction on the term anadiplosis. I am well aware that it is not the best word for this Nephite rhetorical device, but it will be correctly used in the future. While it may not perfectly conform with rhetorical structures we know (whatever those may be called,) this is a structure that is repeatedly and intentionally appears in Nephite discourse to teach important gospel ideas, and it does serve the purposes I have described. It might also be called gradated or climax parallelism. For convenience and lack of a better term I refer to it as stair-step parallelism because that best describes what is going on. I apologize for the confusion. 3 Nephi 27 is not be as clear-cut a stair-step as one might wish. I thought about noting that in the OP, but decided not to; nevertheless, it is clearly an intentional and wordy sequence of repeated identical phrases in parallel that leads the reader step by step to an important conclusion. IMO, this is not how a young 19th-Century frontiersman would have spoken. This may be simpler….

This is what you are looking for. Donald Parry’s Poetic Parallelisms in the Book of Mormon It is the entire text reformatted.

Please stop this derail. This topic is about the stair-step passage in 3 Nephi 27, not autism. Start your own discussion.

Anadiplosis is not chiasmus. Please don’t derail this….start your own discussion about chiasmus. Thank you.

Reading 3 Nephi 27 this week, I came across yet another example of stair-step parallelism, or anadiplosis. In this poetic form, words or phrases are repeated in a progressing sequence that leads to a conclusion: AABBCCDDEE…..… XXXXXXX. Using Donald Parry’s Poetic Parallelisms in the Book of Mormon, I have identified 28 such parallelisms so far. 1. 1 NEPHI 10:11 LEHI (BY NEPHI) TO LAMAN AND LEMUEL 2. 1 NEPHI 12: 19 - 13:5 NEPHI AND AN ANGEL IN A VISION 3. 1 NEPHI 15: 13-20 NEPHI TO LAMAN AND LEMUEL 4. 1 NEPHI 15:33-35 NEPHI TO LAMAN AND LEMUEL 5. 1 NEPHI 19:2-5 NEPHI TO READER 6. 1 NEPHI 22:9-12 NEPHI TO LAMAN AND LEMUEL 7. 2 NEPHI 1:13 LEHI TO LAMAN AND LEMUEL 8. 2 NEPHI 2:12-13 LEHI TO JACOB 9. 2 NEPHI 9:6-9 JACOB TO HIS PEOPLE 10. 2 NEPHI 9:25-26 JACOB TO HIS PEOPLE 11. 2 NEPHI 25:4-5 NEPHI COMMENTS ON ISAIAH TO HIS PEOPLE 12. 2 NEPHI 31:2-3 NEPHI TO HIS BELOVED BRETHREN 13. MOSIAH 2:17-19 KING BENJAMIN TO HIS PEOPLE 14. ALMA 5:37-38 ALMA TO PEOPLE OF ZARAHEMLA 15. ALMA 13:22 ALMA TO ZEEZROM 16. ALMA 32: 11-14 ALMA TO THE POOR ON THE HILL ONIDAH 17. ALMA 41:13-14 ALMA TO CORIANTON 18. ALMA 42:17-20 ALMA TO CORIANTON 19. ALMA 42:23 ALMA TO CORIANTON 20. ALMA 61:8 PAHORAN TO MORONI 21. HELAMAN 5:6-8 HELAMAN TO HIS SONS 22. HELAMAN 15:7-8 SAMUEL THE LAMANITE TO THE NEPHITES 23. 3 NEPHI 27:13-22 JESUS TO HIS NEPHITE DISCIPLES 24. MORMON 9:11-13 MORMON TO UNBELIEVERS 25. ETHER 3: 15 JESUS TO THE BROTHER OF JARED 26. MORONI 8:25-26 MORMON TO MORONI 27. MORONI 10:20-23 MORONI TO THE LAMANITES 28. MORONI 10:32-34 MORONI TO LAMANITES To review or for those unfamiliar with this Hebraism, here is a summary of common characteristics: · They are used as teaching tools when something important needs to be communicated in a methodical and easily understood manner. · None is copied from the Bible. · Each example appears in an address or letter from a prophet or leader in his own words. · There is only one example in historical narratives (Alma 61:8). · Seven of the examples occur in discussions that include Abraham or the Abrahamic covenant. · Nine illuminate the Plan of Salvation in logical sequence. · Some include teachings that faithful LDS will recognize as information addressed in the temple. Here is the one I have found in 3 Nephi 17:13-22. Jesus is summarizing his instructions to his Nephite disciples. He explains his mission from the pre-mortal existence to the final judgement and exaltation. Because he came to Earth to do his Father’s will, all those who repent, are baptized, are filled with the Spirit, and endure to the end will be saved in his Father’s kingdom. Behold I have given unto you my gospel, and this is the gospel which I have given unto you— that I came into the world to do the will of my Father, because my Father sent me. And my Father sent me that I might been lifted up upon the cross; and after that I had been lifted up upon the cross, that I might draw all men unto me, that as I have been lifted up by men even so should men be lifted up by the Father, to stand before me, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil— And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works. And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world. And no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom; therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood, because of their faith, and the repentance of all their sins, and their faithfulness unto the end… Now this is the commandment: Repent all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day. Verily, verily, I say unto you, this is my gospel; and ye know the things that ye must do in my church; for the works which ye have seen me do that shall ye also do; for that which ye have seen me do even that shall ye do; Therefore, if ye do these things blessed are ye, for ye shall be lifted up at the last day. Your comments are welcomed.

As is the case with all war.

Unless they have the ability to fold space. Dune has that covered. They might be spice travelers….💫

The demand for good leaders is ubiquitous, but I reckon that the Great Winding Up Scene might need a few with pretty good credentials to buck up all us mediocre falterers.

There is also this (among many other similar statements) regarding the Saints of our time… “Your Heavenly Father has known you for a very long time. You, as His son or daughter, were chosen by Him to come to earth at this precise time, to be a leader in His great work on earth.⁠ You were chosen not for your bodily characteristics but for your spiritual attributes, such as bravery, courage, integrity of heart, a thirst for truth, a hunger for wisdom, and a desire to serve others.You developed some of these attributes premortally. Others you can develop here on earth⁠ as you persistently seek them.” Russell M. Nelson, Oct 2013