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  1. We seem to be indistinguishable at this point. (That mask is the top recommended cloth mask by ConsumerLab.)
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  3. Are you going to deny that Fauci told people not to wear masks because they didn't work at the start of the pandemic? Cause it won't work to say he wasn't lying, if that is where you are going, he admitted it.
  4. Pogi, this is to Gui, but your railing at me seems to follow the same stream of thought that originates with "you didn't defend me." But it isn't about you, it is about advocating for any crummy mask (because in this false dilemma it is better than nothing) when effective ones are readily available. You have required us to explain those "clarifications" over and over and over and over and over and over to the point it has become a derail.
  5. Ohhhh....you should have explained that sooner! If you can't attribute conversations back to 2020 to B, then you can't be expected to pay the least bit of attention to what she actually said. Got it. Did that happen back in 2020, too? Because those you are misattributing statements to have not left out how masks do work. In fact, that has the been the very basis of the objection to encouraging people to wear masks that are known NOT to work. Because there are readily available tested masks that DO provide a high percentage of protection if worn correctly. I can keep going if you need me to.
  6. Well don't stop now, rewrite what I said and attribute it to me. It worked before, right?
  7. It was darn clear what she was saying from the get go. Like I said, you guys are unbelievable. Any deviation from your pre-approved Covid-nurturing script and you rewrite what was said to mean something that was never said, to the point others are believing that those who advocate for masks are anti-maskers. I'm not sure what you guys get out of doing that but it is starting to look like trolling.
  8. "You two"? I have not discussed any of this with Gui before wandering into a message board thread. What is with the paranoia? And now you are throwing in politics just as you attempted to paint me as an anti-masker, what the heck does Republican have to do with what masks are made of and how they fit????? Do you have to be a Dem to advocate for using the most effective masks available? What the....?
  9. It is difficult when there is more than one person rewriting what has been said by those who don't line up with all of their thinking. This has been eye opening for me on a topic like this when there should be a special effort made to quickly get to the best information and best practices.
  10. She never said that anymore than I ever said masks shouldn't be worn. You guys are unbelievable.
  11. As someone who had chicken pox, measles and mumps, I need better explanations why Covid reacts any differently to natural immunity. Not that I want to find out. But this strikes me as another common sense thing given our experience with other diseases. I am more nervous about getting a vaccine booster than the first time around, but I will because I have to get on planes now.
  12. Pogi, that is just weird. It usually doesn't help to categorize people, it is better to confront what they say. I certainly wouldn't consider you a right wing nut because you advocate for masks and vaccines. Why you consider me a political opponent because I do the same is rather mystifying. Why in the world are you demonizing anyone who advocates for effective masks?? (Throwing vaccines in as if I'm anti-vaccine is kind of dirty pool, actually. Tsk.) I came into this thread late. I'm not going to read all of it so I don't understand who I am supposed to be criticizing. I haven't seen any anti-masker posts (although your definition of anti-masks seems to be anyone who doesn't support leaky cloth masks over effective masks.)
  13. I wouldn't proselyte prickly individuals. But I do speak up with those who do wear masks (and on message boards) because I think most people probably don't know about how poorly rated some masks are. I assume if they use masks they do want to be protected/protect others. Plus, the kn95s really are more comfortable, I think.
  14. I do. Do you? How is that response any different than those who claim that unvaccinated people are only hurting themselves? (hint: it's not) Now you are sounding like an anti-masker if you think advocating for the best masks available, that actually can prevent transmission, is a "strawman."
  15. Anybody who encourages or excuses untested, unverified crappy cloth masks (or any such mask when there are verified masks available) during a life and death pandemic. I recommend Consumer Labs for testing, BTW, although they are a subscription service.
  16. Yes, have I not made that really, really clear? Including that I use a kn95 mask myself?
  17. Based on the limited data we have, almost everyone who wears cloth masks is wearing a bad mask badly. If it gapes or fogs glasses, it is worn badly, which is what cloth masks do. (Speaking as an American, that we do not have study upon study about all of this stuff is also criminal, BTW. Look at how often we have to refer to non-American research.)
  18. Why the hell isn't this plain 'ol common sense?? How stupid are we going to look in hindsight as we wail about rising cases while we applaud people for wearing bad masks badly?
  19. I think the tested surgical masks were the ones with double ties, though. The only thing I didn't like about the kn95 was it made my face crinkle on the sides. LOL But what a concept, eh? A mask that doesn't gape and fits so tightly it puts pressure your skin. Who would have thought that might prevent stuff from getting in or out and actually do what a mask is designed to do?
  20. Which is a prime example of how people respond if someone discloses that we are not being protected well by most of the masks we have been told to wear when there are much much better masks available.
  21. Yes! That is what we have been saying and the minute there is any objection to "wear a mask, any mask, useless or not" it is assumed that we are anti-mask. It's bizarre that so many don't want to improve chances by any means possible at the same time cases are rising. (Which has to be, if people are wearing masks, because the masks are not filtering or worn incorrectly.) I have seen so many complaints about glasses fogging and rather than saying, hey!, if your glasses are fogging your mask isn't working they are given tips on how to prevent it....like rubbing glasses with soap. We don't have to go to N95s, KN95s are readily available although you have to be careful what brands you buy. I wore mine on a plane and it was quite comfortable...and I did have to book it to the connecting flight. (If you complain about the SLC airport, try Minneapolis.) I like that it has a beak because I don't huff and puff as much as in a cloth mask that gets sucked into my mouth. The disadvantage of the 95s is they can't be washed so it's more costly if you need one everyday.
  22. Then let's try it this way. If you had two cars, one with 26% decrease and one with 90%, would you use the 26% or advise others to? Would you be culpable, given both cars were available, if they randomly picked the 26% and had a deadly outcome?
  23. I don't read his stuff. Hardcore ask deniers are numerous, you aren't going to convince them but if you can convince a few to throw out their risky cloth masks, you might do some good.
  24. Anybody who says stuff like "wear a mask" rather than wear a tested mask with 90% filtering and wear it properly.....which I have yet to hear from an official source that isn't hidden away in some article rather than coming out in public announcements.
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