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I’m ok with that. Me too. One youth speaker and one adult speaker. After all the main reason for Sacrament meeting is to take the Sacrament.

^^^^^ This is really what I wanted to ask here... People who have not made the same covenants that members of the church have are not committing sin by drinking. If I am hosting a dinner at a restaurant I would almost expect the guests would take care of their own alcoholic drink orders. But if not I don't see anything wrong with paying for the entire dinner including the drinks.; especially if they are not nor never were members.

Personally I don't think one should talk about issues with their spouse on a public discussion group, unless it is to praise and express love for them. It should be handled between the two of you.

Besides the correction from JST some people interpret such scriptures to mean God allowed Pharaoh to act according to his own predetermined wickedness, rather than forcing him against his will.

I spent several months one year studying all scriptures that mentioned any cities, lands, rivers, etc and then constructed my own internal map of the Book of Mormon land. It was interesting that I found no inconsistencies for the relative locations of all the sites.

Changes like this are often announced months before they happen to give people time to prepare for it. Wards might need to extend more callings for the classes to be taught every Sunday. There are probably places in the world that have not even head about this yet. There is a new youth guide that needs to get printed for their class.

In my ward my gospel doctrine is in the first overflow of the chapel and I have to wait for the chapel to clear and then pull the curtain closed and get the tv and power point program set up. That has always taken at least 10-15 min after Sac mtg. I may have to make some adjustments.

I noticed that the actual announcement said: "sacrament meeting will continue to be no longer than 60 minutes" So maybe the Bishops will have the option of making it shorter to give more time for moving into Sunday school if it is needed for His particular ward.

I think it helps that there are 15 Apostles and the ones more recently called are relatively younger than the others and therefore can fill in as needed with younger minds and bodies.

I was a 70 once, but I was only 30 at the time.

Only 5 min to change and move between classes is going to be a challenge.

I think this has been mentioned before(hasn't everything?), but I saw a recent commentary in the SLT (so consider the source). Some excerpts from the article: "Never one to keep his opinions to himself, Elder Hugh Brown told First Presidency counselor J. Reuben Clark in 1945 what he thought of the church’s aging leadership. Clark recorded in his diary: “Hugh B. Brown — Quite a long talk with him. He says a very great deal of frank talk and dissatisfaction in the church. Dissatisfaction seemed to be over the fact that so many of the general authorities were getting old.” President Heber J. Grant, who was Brown’s mentor and his mission president, taught him that there was nothing sacred or doctrinal about the most senior apostle becoming the president, nor was there justification for it in scripture. It was simply a tradition. The apostles knew that there would be significant risks having the ailing Joseph Fielding Smith as the church president. They worried that he would stumble over his words in General Conference, and embarrass himself and the church. They had good reason to worry. Smith was dozing through meetings, couldn’t remember things, and often repeated himself to friends and family. They also knew of Grant’s strong views about presidential succession because they had heard them, too. Nevertheless, they feared change; they didn’t want to alter “the proper order of things,” as then-apostle Spencer W. Kimball put it. They asserted that it would take a divine revelation to change the practice of presidential succession. Brown proposed that all general authorities, including the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency, be given emeritus status at age 70. He proposed that apostles select the church president in a private meeting, in much the same way the College of Cardinals picks the pope in the Catholic Church. There wouldn’t be smoke wafting out of the Salt Lake Temple to signal that a new leader had been selected. The new president, rather, would be announced at General Conference, and he would be selected based on his health, vigor and fitness to lead — not on his seniority among the apostle Even though the apostles didn’t accept Brown’s proposal, his efforts did not go unheeded. In 1978, N. Eldon Tanner of the governing First Presidency announced in General Conference that members of the First Quorum of Seventy — which ranked just below the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency — would achieve emeritus status at age 70. ________________ I do remember when Spencer W Kimball was president the entire first presidency was too old and frail to perform duties so Gordon B Hinckley was chosen as a 3rd counselor to pretty much handle everything. So far having such elderly Apostles doesn't seem to have been a problem for the church. But could things be better if there were younger members of the FP and Twelve or is it more important to benefit from the older one's years of experience and wisdom?

Here's the story about Lorenzo Snow that some are calling hearsay: “One evening while I was visiting grandpa Snow in his room in the Salt Lake Temple, I remained until the door keepers had gone and the night-watchmen had not yet come in, so grand-pa said he would take me to the main front entrance and let me out that way. He got his bunch of keys from his dresser. After we left his room and while we were still in the large corridor leading into the celestial room, I was walking several steps ahead of grand-pa when he stopped me and said: ‘Wait a moment, Allie, I want to tell you something. It was right here that the Lord Jesus Christ appeared to me at the time of the death of President Woodruff. He instructed me to go right ahead and reorganize the First Presidency of the Church at once and not wait as had been done after the death of the previous presidents, and that I was to succeed President Woodruff.’ “Then grand-pa came a step nearer and held out his left hand and said: ‘He stood right here, about three feet above the floor. It looked as though He stood on a plate of solid gold.’ “Grand-pa told me what a glorious personage the Savior is and described His hands, feet, countenance and beautiful white robes, all of which were of such a glory of whiteness and brightness that he could hardly gaze upon Him. “Then he came another step nearer and put his right hand on my head and said: ‘Now, grand-daughter, I want you to remember that this is the testimony of your grand-father, that he told you with his own lips that he actually saw the Savior, here in the Temple, and talked with Him face to face.’” (Improvement Era, September 1933, under the title “An Experience of My Father’s” By LeRoi C. Snow:)

What do you think? From what I understand it needs to be read in the context of the conditions when it was said. Problems with false things being taught by women in Ephesus. We can also chalk it up to latter-ay revelation over-riding the ancient policy. There are however many Christian faiths that still believe it should be followed.

I wonder how this fits in with regards to the Bible teaching about women not being in authority over men. 1 Tim 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Does this scripture simply not apply to us as it did back then?