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We really like it on spaghetti squash.

No. This is something I've always struggled with. If we understood then we wouldn't "need" it.

I get this idea and I somewhat agree with it and personally think that one can have meaningfull worship on a noisy, crowded bus too, but if the decorations, the music, the sounds, the design don't help people be in the right headspace why does anyone have them at all? It's because it helps those who are willing to try to get in the right space get there. I think what is wanted in chapels by those who complain is a change of focus. It wasn't all that long ago that the church said the hallways and foyers should have pictures that focus on Christ, yet the room where he is worshipped in a meeting house has no pictures/statues of Christ. So are most of those who are complaining they are not ornate enough really meaning they are not fancy enough or do they just mean the chapels themselves don't remind them of Christ?

I've only ever heard about it on the internet.

A past ward of ours had part of a retirement community and had that same thing. One particular street of nicknamed "Celestial Street" because so many of them lived on it. It wasn't very long. Just everyone moving in didn't end up living long.

This was 4 different stakes in 2 states so it's more widespread than that, but who knows how far.

No, I don't, and I am not seeing it with an easy search, though I am seeing some people talk about it. It's not a priority to find it, so I am happy to retract that, according to board rules, as being a churchwide thing unless someone else does find it. I just know that when it happened when my husband was in, it came down from at least a stake level. The rule was that the list with names couldn't be shown to others. So what I have seen in the wards I have been in was: 1. calling everyone (my husband was specifically asked to do this). 2. Sit in the foyer, announce the exec will be out there, and then people come up to him to make appointments, and he then contacts those who didn't. 3. Email everyone or text. 4. The exec sec just approached people at church and then maybe called others. This year we might have been emailed? I'm not sure, as I have taken my email off the site and only my husband's is there. The bishop and I have talked about my beliefs about the church so only my husband would be approached on that, and I just don't remember how this year.

Honestly, it has been that way for some time. It has been 20+ years since my husband was exec secretary and he hated the change because he has always hated the phone even in chorded days. But being in 4 different wards and multiple bishops since then, I've noticed they didn't all follow the practice. You can tell, though when someone has been told from higher above them or they read the handbook or they decide it is important because they change and stop having signups.

Maybe they finally found out they aren't supposed to be doing that? I'm sorry that you haven't been shown concern from those in your ward. That can hurt.

The church has really not wanted sign up lists, but not everyone follows that. My husband was executive secretary years ago when they really came down on not having lists that everyone could see and for people to be contacted individually. Poor guy absolutely hates the phone and he had to make all those calls. In recent years, I've seen them announce to meet the exec sec out in the foyer after sacrament meeting and that really cut down the calls/emails for those in those callings those years. They were still supposed to contact those who didn't contact them.

Not who you were talking to and not complaing, but this has been the oddest thing to me. I have not understood why temple reccomend holders need something more (1.) than their reccomends. You don't have a separate meeting to declare your WoW status or one to declare your chastity status etc. All those things are declared in the temple interview. I understand for people who don't have a reccomend. As for #2, that can now be done at home, much more easily, on the computer, for those that have that access.

I wish it was the one picture with multiple pieces verses the multiple pictures. I can see cars, motorcycles etc on the one picture. I cannot always tell what I am looking for on that tiny little picture on the multis on my phone. I just end up pushing on them hoping that is a tiny traffic light among all that other stuff.

There are. It's different though. At least at one time (30+ years ago when I looked into it because it was offered at my institute) there was some training for full time teachers. I assume that is still the case. You went into it like a job, getting the training and were hired that way. So it was different than the sort of calling that happened with my mom. My sister-in-law was also called to teach her ward youth a couple of years ago, but I don't know if they had her apply like happened with my mom. Interestingly, the institute wouldn't allow me to do the training. I was newly married and had no children and the church didn't allow women to be full time teachers before their children were raised. Years later, that must have changed because my friend became a teacher while she still had children at home.

Interesting. I hadn't heard of the adventure ones, but that sounds like it was inbetween the time I would have gone and when my kids would have.

The CD I am talking about didn't come out till after I could have gone as well. They were ones I had for my kids. John Bytheway, Hank Smith. Those kind of CDs. Your speaker likely didn't come from Salt Lake. The speakers for my kid's activities and the RS activities I went to were always found by our stake leaders. But yes, Bo Gritz is a interesting choice for a youth conference.

I'm in Mesa as well. It was definitely a thing for people to go to EFY at BYU and later in Tempe and Flagstaff and maybe other places. I'm trying to remember if my daughter went to one of the local ones, that came later, here or if it was in Salt Lake. I really didn't hear about it at church till the church changed from it being a special, separate thing to an everyone does it. I don't know if that is still going or not as it has been years since my kids were that age. I heard about it more from friends, talk CDs for teens and Education Week so I could see why you might not heard about it much.

It has been 20 years since I lived there, but when I did, if this is the double chapel I was thinking of it is where at least 1 Tongan ward met. I can't remember if there was another Tongan ward or maybe a Samoan ward too as we had quite a few Tongans and Samoans who lived there, but I think there were 2 Tongan wards at that chapel. And yes, some parts of that area were pretty rough, and it wasn't just Tongans. So no, I don't think it is odd.

If what I have heard is correct then no - I understand at least some mission presidents get it as well.

Lol. She taught at home, but she did drive across the city once when she wanted to pick up some beer that she heard would be good against snails because she didn't want her seminary students to see her buying it.

It's all so heartbreaking what happens with these families. Someone in my family had a baby with a gang member. What we have heard of his father (gang member in a high position) leads me to believe he would also hand his gun to his son. His poor grandma tried to raise him well, but the influence of his dad was just too much. And that affects many of my family even though they have never had contact with the dad. But we have not dealt with anything like happened in this story. I think that may be the double chapel building that I am familiar with so there are a lot of people that go there. Even people who don't know those involved in the shooting will likely be affected just going to church or attending more funerals.

I know of at least one prophet (we knew his bishop) who lived in his own house for quite a few years. They wanted him to move to the place by Temple Square, but he wanted to live at home. They may have changed in later years. The prophet before him did live there though.

Technically, seminary teachers do, or at least did, get paid. This was quite a few years ago, so things may have changed, but my mom was called in to the bishop, similar to a calling, and asked to apply for the position. She got paid a very small amount, so small it was probably called something else rather than pay. Expense reimbursement was separate from that.

It's hard to know about change though, since his was a special VIP tour for him specifically and given by the managing director of Temple Square. Not a general, every day tour. The weird thing is I know something like 20/25 years ago they did talk about the other wives when I went. And I think (though I'm not sure) in later years when I went again they didn't, just like you experienced. So why they had it, but then didn't have it, I don't know.

Many, strongly believing members don't understand this either. So I wouldn't call it specifically a lie, but I don't think that what was quoted here promotes understanding to most of what is received.

When my daughter was on institute council a non member who had been attending classes was asked to be on it as well.