General Conference Thoughts

[CV75]

38 minutes ago, Rain said:

Sister Runia's talk went right along with another thing I heard today, "connect before you correct".  

And sometimes that means you won't actually need to correct.

This summer I sought the Lord's guidance on a matter of great consternation involving another person's deeds and the response I got from Him was, "Nothing. Do nothing." He knew I loved them already and did not want us to lose that basic connection.

24 minutes ago, Ginger Snaps said:

Sister Runia’s talk was incredible. 

Yes, confirmation to me that the best thing we can do when others cause us sorrow is to continue to enjoy the fruit of the tree of life, the love of God.

[Rain]

3 minutes ago, CV75 said:

This summer I sought the Lord's guidance on a matter of great consternation involving another person's deeds and the response I got from Him was, "Nothing. Do nothing." He knew I loved them already and did not want us to lose that basic connection.

For years with one child all I heard was "love him".

3 minutes ago, CV75 said:

Yes, confirmation to me that the best thing we can do when others cause us sorrow is to continue to enjoy the fruit of the tree of life, the love of God.

 

[Calm]

2 hours ago, blackstrap said:

Joseph was familiar with the tendency of folks to " shatter like glass " at new ideas or old traditions . Today it is called " triggered"

I don’t think they actually meant the same thing.  “Shatter like glass” seems to me to be so rigid in thinking that being confronted with a new idea is extremely distressing and one goes into avoidance mode or anger.
 

While being triggered is…

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experiencing a strong emotional reaction of fear, shock, anger, or worry, especially because you are made to remember something bad that has happened in the past:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/triggered#google_vignette

[Okrahomer]

From Elder Sabin’s talk tonight:

“In God’s eyes, kindness is synonymous with greatness. Part of being kind is being forgiving and nonjudgemental.”

And he quoted President Nelson:

“One of the easiest ways to identify a true follower of Jesus Christ is how compassionately that person treats other people.”

[Tacenda]

2 minutes ago, Okrahomer said:

From Elder Sabin’s talk tonight:

“In God’s eyes, kindness is synonymous with greatness. Part of being kind is being forgiving and nonjudgemental.”

And he quoted President Nelson:

“One of the easiest ways to identify a true follower of Jesus Christ is how compassionately that person treats other people.”

👍

The talks were so good tonight. I didn't get to catch some of today's conference.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Tacenda

[Stargazer]

1 hour ago, juliann said:

Because that was his purpose. I've never understood those who think it elevates them to label people who don't share their opinions as "offended." It is an insult meant to silence, not understand. 

Adding "mind reader" to your resume? 

If you believe my purpose was to insult, or to silence, you are projecting. 

I was speaking generally of "taking offense" when no offense was offered or intended.  Do you seriously believe that anything spoken of in General Conference today was intended to offend? Yet some have taken offense -- as if the speaker should have shut his or her mouth, or "How dare he?" That's what I was calling out.

And then you provided the perfect example of it, in your post accusing me of condescension, in a very condescending way.

As for insults meant to silence, well, look in the mirror. You're trying to shut me up, to silence me. You've done it before. You're not satisfied to merely disagree. You must impute dastardly motives, egregious intentions. You make me an offender for a word. 

I see no need to discuss this further with you.

 

 

[Malc]

1 hour ago, Rain said:

I'm sorry I keep talking about my conference.  It keeps connecting.  With the last talk about cultures it reminded me again of things said.

Many of the Ukrainians are leaving to US and going back to Ukraine where they would still be in danger because they feel the US people think they are better than them.

Also, we really have to be careful with cultural practices.  A Ethiopian woman spoke of experiences with Ethiopian refugees in her church.  When they were asked to close their eyes during prayer it for some reason had them reliving their trauma. 

There is just so much that is just cultural and not something that is right or wrong or "of God".  We need to recognize when something is just cultural.

I'm working (as a volunteer) with a young woman in Ukraine, helping her to improve her spoken English.

Once I could hear air-raid sirens in the background while we were talking. I don't know how the people there so it - getting on with life under constant threat of violence.

[Malc]

oops - duplicate post.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Malc
duplicate post

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, Ginger Snaps said:

Sister Runia’s talk was incredible. 

Agreed.  It really spoke to me personally in regards to a specific child of mine.

[mfbukowski]

11 hours ago, Okrahomer said:

Elder Daines’ talk about overcoming “spiritual face-blindness” lingers with me.  May we all come to see the face of the Savior, and through Him recognize the face of the Father. 
 

Apologies for my awkward summary.  I’m still processing…

Agree.

That was a Biggie from someone I didn't recall at all.

[The Nehor]

5 hours ago, blackstrap said:

Joseph was familiar with the tendency of folks to " shatter like glass " at new ideas or old traditions . Today it is called " triggered" . Some people have a hair trigger while others have theirs well rusted. 

Triggered is when bringing something up causes a strong uncomfortable reaction due to something seen or said that shouldn’t normally cause that response. When I poke at a conference talk it is rarely triggering. I can only think of three times in a church meeting that something said “triggered” me and caused a disproportionate response due to previous experiences. One I endured (poorly). In the other two I got up and left the meeting. Only one of them was a conference talk.

[Navidad]

14 hours ago, Rain said:

Sister Runia's talk went right along with another thing I heard today, "connect before you correct".  

And sometimes that means you won't actually need to correct.

Wow, I will have to listen to this talk. It sounds wonderful. "Connect before you correct!" Wow. That is a wonderful principal. I am trying to learn that.

[Tacenda]

1 minute ago, Navidad said:

Wow, I will have to listen to this talk. It sounds wonderful. "Connect before you correct!" Wow. That is a wonderful principal. I am trying to learn that.

In my position today, I have sometimes been triggered by conference talks given. She was, as someone on this thread said, a breath of fresh air!

[Navidad]

12 hours ago, Stargazer said:

Adding "mind reader" to your resume? 

If you believe my purpose was to insult, or to silence, you are projecting. 

I was speaking generally of "taking offense" when no offense was offered or intended.  Do you seriously believe that anything spoken of in General Conference today was intended to offend? Yet some have taken offense -- as if the speaker should have shut his or her mouth, or "How dare he?" That's what I was calling out.

And then you provided the perfect example of it, in your post accusing me of condescension, in a very condescending way.

As for insults meant to silence, well, look in the mirror. You're trying to shut me up, to silence me. You've done it before. You're not satisfied to merely disagree. You must impute dastardly motives, egregious intentions. You make me an offender for a word. 

I see no need to discuss this further with you.

 

 

Hi Stargazer - For whatever it is worth, I have found you to be very kind and patient with me and my struggle to try and understand all things LDS (and Mormon). I appreciate it very much. I acknowledge that sometimes I come to the forum to vent, because I believe it a safe place to do so. Sometimes that works; sometimes not so well! But at all times it is up to me how to react. I believe the psychologists deem that "internal locus of control." Perhaps having a strong internal locus of control means I shouldn't even need to vent in the first place! Anyway, thanks for your kindness to me. That means a lot.

[Stargazer]

This conference seriously uplifts me. Just finished watching Elder Adilson de Paula Parrella's talk, and I found it marvellously inspiring, and gave me one more witness of Jesus Christ. 

Luke 24:32

[juliann]

Emily Freeman gave a barn burner talk. Probably my favorite explanation of walking the covenant path. 

[Stargazer]

Elder Waddell's talk is sure to stir up those who are choosing heroes other than the Lord Jesus Christ.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Stargazer

[Okrahomer]

Sehet, ihr Völker! (Hark, All ye nations!)
 

I love this rousing hymn that takes me back to my missionary days in Germany.  

[JAHS]

18 minutes ago, Okrahomer said:

Sehet, ihr Völker! (Hark, All ye nations!)
 

I love this rousing hymn that takes me back to my missionary days in Germany.  

Me too, I served in Austria and sang along in German as well as I could remember.

Edited October 1, 2023 by JAHS

[ERMD]

42 minutes ago, juliann said:

Emily Freeman gave a barn burner talk. Probably my favorite explanation of walking the covenant path. 

My favorite talk of conference so far.  Knocked it out of the park.

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, ERMD said:

My favorite talk of conference so far.  Knocked it out of the park.

So nice to see you, ERMD!

[Calm]

20 hours ago, let’s roll said:

Having just retuned with my wife from a mission in Latin American, I offer a heartfelt amen to Elder Rasband’s talk.  I’ve missed interacting with all of you and look forward to re-engaging.

Glad to see you haven’t forgotten us.  I hope to hear lots of mission stories in the future.   

[Rain]

2 hours ago, Navidad said:

Wow, I will have to listen to this talk. It sounds wonderful. "Connect before you correct!" Wow. That is a wonderful principal. I am trying to learn that.

Just to be clear - she didn't say that.  It was in my trauma conference.  It was just her talk went right along with it.

[mfbukowski]

Interesting that even President Eyring has trouble occasionally achieving a constant connection with the Holy Ghost.

 

[mfbukowski]

20 hours ago, let’s roll said:

Having just retuned with my wife from a mission in Latin American, I offer a heartfelt amen to Elder Rasband’s talk.  I’ve missed interacting with all of you and look forward to re-engaging.

It's a different world now.