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2 minutes ago, Ginger Snaps said:

Except it says, “The scope of the entire project will span multiple years.”

Good catch.  We probably won't see these new books before 2030 at this rate.

Posted
9 hours ago, bluebell said:

Good catch.  We probably won't see these new books before 2030 at this rate.

I reckon it'll be before then.

They can release the text and sheet music just with the existing recordings for many of them and chances are the tabernacle choir has done the rest.

Release in English first, replacing the old music with new as it comes out, and other languages as they are available.

Posted
15 hours ago, bluebell said:

Good catch.  We probably won't see these new books before 2030 at this rate.

😭

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I'm not really looking forward to this. 

Aside from the omission of Come Thou Font of Every Blessing, I like the current hymn book.

 

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A further press release is likely soon!  It was accidentally released early by LDS living, they have removed it but not before it made its way to a Facebook group I’m in.  Apparently they hope to have the English version out in 2026 and worldwide by 2030.  However, there will be a digital release of new songs in 2024. Also there will be only one book containing both children and adults hymns/songs! 

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On 9/8/2023 at 2:26 PM, Stargazer said:

I'm not really looking forward to this. 

Aside from the omission of Come Thou Font of Every Blessing, I like the current hymn book.

 

Hey, I'm holding onto my old Hymnbook(s) and to the vocal recordings and to the instrumental recordings I have on CD.  (I thought, though, that the powers-that-be in charge of the Church's Website simply were going to put up the "new" stuff as it becomes available without taking down the "old" stuff.  I could be wrong, but ... :huh: :unknw:)

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https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/sacred-hymnbook-to-help-unite-uplift-latter-day-saints-of-all-ages-worldwide?fbclid=IwAR0OL5X_HuRmeI8rkwy3DYr57FordyXYoKO8kMdwNPqcCaj96YI7KfH6P24

Newsroom re-released information on the hymnbook.  We are supposed to start having access to the new songs by early next year with the full printed hymnbook being out by 2026 for many languages.

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I've heard that they won't include the Star Spangled Banner any more.  And they are adding a beautiful Christmas song from an Asian country, as well as beautiful songs from other countries like Brazil.  The book will be 500 pages, the largest number that will still fit in the existing book holders on the back of the benches.  The primary songs that are spiritual will be included in the Hymnbook.  The primary fun songs, like Popcorn Popping on the Apricot Tree and Once There Was a Snowman, will be available in a supplemental book.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, jcake said:

I've heard that they won't include the Star Spangled Banner any more.  And they are adding a beautiful Christmas song from an Asian country, as well as beautiful songs from other countries like Brazil.  The book will be 500 pages, the largest number that will still fit in the existing book holders on the back of the benches.  The primary songs that are spiritual will be included in the Hymnbook.  The primary fun songs, like Popcorn Popping on the Apricot Tree and Once There Was a Snowman, will be available in a supplemental book.

They won’t include any patriotic songs in the hard copy as they mean it to be a global hymn book. (This was announced when it was first announced iirc).  But the patriotic songs for each country can be included digitally and printed up as needed. 
 

I will be very surprised if the hard copy is 500 pages. Maybe that is intended to include the beginning digital songs as well. They said at the beginning they were planning on  a smaller hard copy version with an expandable digital version as well. 

Edited by Calm
Posted (edited)

Songs will be on both sides of the pages so 450-500 songs means 250 - 300 pages I am guessing.  But I could be wrong. 
 

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Hymns—for Home and Church,” a sacred music collection of between 450 to 500 hymns and children’s songs, will be available digitally and in print for individuals and families to use at home and at church.

Latter-day Saints traditionally worship as individuals and families at home and as a congregation in Sunday worship services. Rather than the previously announced hymnbook and separate songbook for children, “Hymns—for Home and Church” will be representative of the communal nature of music and worship with hymns and children’s songs together in one collection.  

Looks like they decided against the much smaller book in favour of combining the children’s songs as well. 

Edited by Calm
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Will my national anthem be in the hymnbook?

Because the new core collection will be the same in every language, national anthems will not be included in the printed hymnbooks. However, sacred music of local interest may be made available to members by language through digital channels as they meet the goals of sacred music within a given country.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/new-music?lang=eng

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Original announcement:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/church-announces-plans-for-new-hymnbook-and-childrens-songbook?lang=eng
 

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“As an extension to the new printed hymnbook and songbook, additional sacred music will be made available online, including music of local interest in each language,” said Elder LeGrand R. Curtis Jr., a General Authority Seventy and an adviser to the revision project. “The new hymnbook and songbook, as well as music from the current hymnbook and songbook, will also be available online.”

I can’t find where I read it would be smaller. It might be in an old thread here. 

Posted (edited)

My top 4 hymns for ousting:

1) There is a Green Hill Far Away

2) There is Sunshine in My Soul Today

3) Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel

4) A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief

I just can't with these ones. #4 is worse when all verses are sung.

 

My top 4 to keep:

1) I Stand All Amazed

2) High on the Mountain Top

3) I Believe in Christ

4) O My Father

Edited by Damien the Leper
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, The Nehor said:

National anthems are “sacred music”? That is kind of weird.

I don’t think that is what was meant, though it could be interpreted that way.  I thought they meant the local culture’s religious music would be considered.  If a national anthem had religious significance (God watching over the nation kind of thing), I can see it as being added.  If not, if completely secular, seems unlikely.

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These are the top religious hymns.  It we want to a line closes to protestant Christianity, then we should adjust our hymnal accordantly.  

Amazing Grace: Written by John Newton in 1779

How Great Thou Art: Written by Carl Gustav Boberg in 1885

I'll Fly Away: Written by Albert E. Brumley in 1929

Psalm 119: An acrostic poem with 176 verses

Cædmon's Hymn: An Old English poem attributed to Cædmon

Lord God Almighty: Written by Anglican bishop Reginald Heber

Posted
2 hours ago, sunstoned said:

These are the top religious hymns.  It we want to a line closes to protestant Christianity, then we should adjust our hymnal accordantly.  

Amazing Grace: Written by John Newton in 1779

How Great Thou Art: Written by Carl Gustav Boberg in 1885

I'll Fly Away: Written by Albert E. Brumley in 1929

Psalm 119: An acrostic poem with 176 verses

Cædmon's Hymn: An Old English poem attributed to Cædmon

Lord God Almighty: Written by Anglican bishop Reginald Heber

I don't care about aligning with protestants.  I want to include Amazing Grace because it's an amazing song.

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