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rpn

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  1. Because you expanded what has been carefully calibrated discussion unilaterally in a way that hospitality before discussion with her didn't require. She's afraid you've abandoned your faith and maybe wondering if you're going to start drinking too.
  2. Well i watched the first moon landing. They didint stick around long any of the four? times they went 69-72. And just recently we got to see passing the moon in a new flight beyond.
  3. Well not a moment too soon to ditch "mormonism" as depicted. (which bears little to no similarity with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teachings and beliefs).
  4. I don't think we know exactly how and who was physically involved in creating all of what we know as the earth.
  5. I would have been so curious about how they get along together given what is happening and the potential risks for each of them. I'd be curious about how they got excused from war duty and whether they can even speak of that.
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    Utah History

    For many years, the history of Utah was the history of the Church of Latter-day Saints: The second Volume of "Saints covers the history of the church from 1846 to 1893 The Centennial Collection is another source: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/734691
  7. none of which is scriptural but became part of the Catholic and thereafter other divergent faith participation over the years.
  8. There are members who participate in Jewish Seders, carry crosses like some do to mimic what Jesus experienced. We are free to celebrate however we choose. I can tell you that I've seen/heard of more sunrise services in the last five years. We break the bread and water in the Sacrament every Sunday, not just on Easter. And many of us do Easter Egg Hunts (usually not on Easter Sunday itself). We are more prone to celebrate the Ressurection than the dying on the cross part (which was necessary but which doesn't/shouldn't eclipse the resurrection.
  9. Why would He have prompted two separate prophets to investigate the issue , if He didn't think it was time? He may have known that despite prophetic efforts to get the investigations going, He wasn't going to find willing ears? But two separate prophets were inspired to conduct the investigations.
  10. In my mind the quintessential example on this point comes from the two times top church leadership was inspired in the 1880's and then again in the early 1900's to investigate the priesthood ban. (Because Zebedee Coltrin outright lied and Abraham Smoot also denied that Joseph Smith had ordained black men to the priesthood in the 1880's after Brigham Young died, there wasn't a quorum willing to hear the desires of God on the racial issue until 1978). And given the increasing ugliness that grew up around the racial disparities during that time leaning flat into racism, it clearly is possible for all of them to go astray.
  11. But that is materially different from the original question of whether or not it is sinful. When you do wrongful things by compulsion of misguided or wicked leaders, they are the ones that bear the sin, not the member doing it.
  12. We are obligated to confirm what our leaders (or anyone else for that matter) with the Spirit. I don't think any of us ever are obligate to simply accept because even a general authority says so.
  13. That doesnt have to be a lie: It could be that what happens now isnt what happened at the time of that call. It could be that a person who was on the call kept a personnel copy when they weren't supposed to. It could be the person who called kept a copy. It could be that the convo was reduced to paper before it was destroyed. It could be that is what the attorneys believed at the time, and now they know it didnt happen in this case. Appropriate to note the discrepancy, but at the moment the accusation of "lie" is unwarranted.
  14. Because I am fully responsible for what I do to make sure our leaders know what is happening in the Lord's church, what those who receive the information do upon it's receipt is just not something my contributions can determine. People who have the capacity to resolve known wickedness (or bad or even just wrongful) behavior cannot be held accountable for failures to do what they should, without having actual knowledge of it.
  15. I sang in the choir, and went vting with people whose companions weren't available. And you can always serve in "Just Serv" Projects in the community and help clean the building.
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    1 Hour Church?

    It's been announced for Easter (which is being celebrated on March 30 this year, which is Palm Sunday, because the first Sunday in April (which is Easter is General Conference. And we've had 1 hour for Christmas a couple of times during the pandemic and since. Not new at all.
  17. Sure there is. While it is true that letters to the first presidency (though I'd have to do more thinking before I'd send it to them rather that the President of the Twelve which is currently in charge of most of this temporal stuff, first) are regularly returned to the bishop or SP in which the person belongs, if I sent it to them registered mail, at least I'd know they received it, whatever they choose to do about it isn't my problem. (If I also send a copy of it to the program charged with this, then they also might resolve it.)
  18. I would love to know how the person who did the video got to the place that he either didn't recall or intentionally falsely remembered the details. And I really hope that any bishop who has contact with the Child Abuse Hotline in the future reports up the chain to the prophet if they think what the hotline has done in their case is not what Jesus would do without delay. (I have to admit that I'd lean towards reporting child abuse ---except perhaps that confessed only in confessional, which is protected by penitent-clergy privilege (in which case I'd try to get reportable info otherwise---even if I knew or thought I knew that it had already been reported.)
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    Fasting

    My take is that the OP and everyone who hasn't seen it should watch the old movie "Windows of Heaven" before opining on miracles of prayer and fasting. Which I think you can watch here:
  20. In such congregations people don't discuss it. But sometimes people provide food or run errands for those who can't get out and about, and those with requisite skills help people get powers of attorney and other affairs in order and food and alternative child care and maybe even funds to return them to their country of origin if that is inevitable. What would Jesus do is not always really clear and it can take a lot of prayer and consideration in deciding one's obligations to God and their fellow men.
  21. I don't think it is what the OP claims. And I know that there have been at various times different counsel shared in countries where the way they tax would make ten percent entirely undoable. We each have to figure out how to tithe on our own. And it is not about money so it's not a bill.
  22. There is an order in heaven and spouses come before apostles. And only spouses come before spouses.
  23. The only thing that makes sense to me is that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife. There is no other explanation for Him visiting her first. before declaring Himself to His apostles. But I don't see that He had female ordained.
  24. I wouldn't say that is accurate. Everyone has to choose to opt in. The temple work we do for the dead is so that you can choose to join the Church of Jesus Christ. The important part of becoming LIKE our Heavenly Parents and Savior is what salvation requires. When you recognize then what you don't recognize here, the ordinances will be ready. But each of us has to have become what we were meant to become. And practically, when we die, members go to a different place than non-members who are then taught the gospel of Jesus Christ and may choose to accept the ordinances that have been performed on earth which gives us that choice.
  25. Thats when it was shut down and the offshoots them moved to Mexico and in some case began to worship outside of the faith.
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