Danzo

I'm not going to resolve anything of course, but I'll share a few stories. There was a man in one of the branches that I was serving in and he started making the girls uncomfortable by touching them, starring at them and getting into their personal space. Eventually we unofficially excommunicated him, we told him to never come to the church again and if we saw him in church again, we would call the police or we might even exercise the "laying on of hands". he was a creep. But it took us a little while to realize this, we probably could have acted sooner. Its was difficult to see him crossing the line until it too obvious. There was a brother that ended up moving into our ward with his family. He had been convicted of sexual child abuse and served prison time for it. The bishop and ward counsel eventually decided to assign him a "baby sitter" that would stick with him whenever he was in the church and not sitting with his family. He was told he wasn't allowed in the church building without his wife or "baby sitter" with him. The adult members of the ward were explained this in a meeting after church. The fact that he was still allowed in the church made some members upset. Also, the whole process of finding out who he was, what he did and deciding what to do, took a couple of weeks, which made a lot of members upset that the bishop didn't act sooner. I personally think the bishop acted fairly quickly, but obviously they could have acted quicker. The problem is that these people don't wear sign around their neck so there always is going to be some delay. When I was a missionary, I remember being in a car with two sister missionaries, My companion was in the front seat (driver wasn't a missionary) and I was in the back seat with the two sisters. Without thinking I reached to get the seat belt buckle that the sister was sitting on. I was accused of grabbing the sisters butt, (which was true, but not my intention) I apologized about 5 times and nothing was said afterwards. That experience has been burned into my memory with enough force, that to this day i always ask the person next to me to move if I need a seat belt buckle.

I think any of us is entitled to seek and receive revelation on anything taught by the 12 apostles and First presidency. If God can reveal it to them, He can reveal it to us.

you seem to know a lot about what Mr Petti was looking for. Did He confide in you?

I like how you use the word Somali to describe the thefts. Somehow it isn't individuals stealing things, its a nationality that is stealing things.

I assume you are perfectly thrilled and happy with all people who serve their sentences being released to the public (except those scary foreigners, who deserve extra punishment) Also, I assume by your comments that you are appalled when ICE removes someone who is not in Jail and has never been convicted of any crime. (unless, of course, criminality is just a pretext)

Sometimes deportation is the answer and sometimes it isn't. There are times when deporting someone is more evil than allowing them to stay. There is no one answer for every situation.

One year for rape? There is the real problem, and it has nothing to do with foreigners being in America. Two people commit a crime. One is a US citizen and one is a Foreigner. You are ok with there being two different penalties for the same crime? Somehow the foreigner is more guilty?

You actually want deportation to be the punishment for rape?, Rape someone and get a free ticket to your home country? Do you actually read what you are writing?

Why?, Why does everyone need to be sent home? Are you scared of them? Are they hurting you?

I have many clients that i know for 100% certainty are here illegally. (some are members of the church) I do not report any of them. It would actually be illegal for me to report them. Laws are funny that way, following one law often means breaking another one.

You are wrong, Wrong, Wrong. The church baptizes illegal aliens, The church calls them on missions the church gives them temple recommends The church issues callings, including branch presidents, elders quorum presidents, etc.

Several Muslims converted to the church in my mission in the 90s in Europe. Not really news, in my opinion. (I even know one member of the church that converted to Islam).

My wife was illegal when she was called to serve a mission (from California to Utah and attended the MTC in Utah) Her brother was illegal when he was called (from California to Idaho and Attended the MTC in Utah) Her sister was illegal when she was called (from California to Mexico and attended the MTC In Mexico)