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The Nehor Grand Master

The Nehor

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37 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said:

There were dietary restrictions in previous dispensations. Perhaps this in our dispensation because the Lord knew how ubiquitous the iniquitous substances would become. 

I can see why alcohol was (mostly) covered in the Word of Wisdom. Early 19th century Americans were basically almost all functional (and not so functional) alcoholics. Adults were, on average, drinking about two and a half times as much as people in America do today. That is also a bit of a misrepresentation since the average consumption rate is very skewed by the top 10% of drinkers. Going by the median they were drinking a lot more than two and a half times what we might think is ‘normal’.

It has become more directly deadly to drink with the rise of cars. Getting drunk and riding your horse is less likely to kill people. The opioid drug crisis fits the Word of Wisdom reasoning of being a safeguard against ‘evil and designing’ men pretty perfectly.

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Kenngo1969 Grand Master

Kenngo1969

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3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

There were dietary restrictions in previous dispensations. Perhaps this in our dispensation because the Lord knew how ubiquitous the iniquitous substances would become. 

 

1 hour ago, MiserereNobis said:

You poet you!

He's a poet?  Does he know it?

Excuse me while I ponder the ubiquity of iniquity. ;) :D

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JLHPROF Grand Master

JLHPROF

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4 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

There were dietary restrictions in previous dispensations. Perhaps this in our dispensation because the Lord knew how ubiquitous the iniquitous substances would become. 

The substances themselves are not iniquitous.

Wine isn't evil, Christ drank wine.  Pork isn't evil/unclean. 

Eating a steak in July with a side of lobster violates the old law and the WoW.  Neither are iniquitous items. 

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strappinglad Grand Master

strappinglad

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Remember that story ( metaphorical I'm sure ) , about Israel and the snakes and Moses and the brass? serpent ? All the people had to do was look upon the raised serpent and be saved. Some would not even look. Let's guess why not.

1 . It is irrational .

2. No silly so-called prophet is going to tell me what to do .

3. It's a dumb rule.

4. We are not supposed to worship graven images

5. Other ( speculate ! )

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Kenngo1969 Grand Master

Kenngo1969

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1 hour ago, JLHPROF said:

The substances themselves are not iniquitous.

Wine isn't evil, Christ drank wine.  Pork isn't evil/unclean. 

Eating a steak in July with a side of lobster violates the old law and the WoW.  Neither are iniquitous items. 

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I'm lusting after that steak and lobster, so I guess I'm violating both the Word of Wisdom and the Law of Chastity! :P

:huh: :unknw: :huh:

;) :D

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Calm Grand Master

Calm

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2 hours ago, JLHPROF said:

Eating a steak in July with a side of lobster violates the old law and the WoW. 

Oh man, I am hungry now…

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The Nehor Grand Master

The Nehor

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3 hours ago, strappinglad said:

Remember that story ( metaphorical I'm sure ) , about Israel and the snakes and Moses and the brass? serpent ? All the people had to do was look upon the raised serpent and be saved. Some would not even look. Let's guess why not.

1 . It is irrational .

2. No silly so-called prophet is going to tell me what to do .

3. It's a dumb rule.

4. We are not supposed to worship graven images

5. Other ( speculate ! )

6. Ivermectin is a better cure.

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Hamba Tuhan Grand Master

Hamba Tuhan

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2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

May not be wrong but I refuse to exit whinging about the Word of Wisdom.

Go big or go home.

No matter what one chooses to whinge about, in the end it's all the functional equivalent of a cup of tea.

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The Nehor Grand Master

The Nehor

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2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

No matter what one chooses to whinge about, in the end it's all the functional equivalent of a cup of tea.

Nah, my complaint is more along the line of a bowl of lentils.

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california boy Grand Master

california boy

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9 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said:

I'm lusting after that steak and lobster, so I guess I'm violating both the Word of Wisdom and the Law of Chastity! :P

:huh: :unknw: :huh:

;) :D

Just don't kiss it.  You will be fine.  😃

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2BizE Proficient

2BizE

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19 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Obedience, yes, control, no.

Right, Obedience is doing what you are told regardless if it is right

Stormin' Mormon Mentor

Stormin' Mormon

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22 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Obedience, yes, control, no.

Q: Is my Mountain Dew consumption against the Word of Wisdom?

A: enh. Figure it out yourself. Use your best judgement.

With guidance like that, I'm hard pressed to see any desire for control.

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The Nehor Grand Master

The Nehor

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4 hours ago, Stormin' Mormon said:

Q: Is my Mountain Dew consumption against the Word of Wisdom?

A: enh. Figure it out yourself. Use your best judgement.

With guidance like that, I'm hard pressed to see any desire for control.

If you let some Baja Blast touch your lips you might as well move on to crack cocaine.

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

Bernard Gui

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23 hours ago, JLHPROF said:

The substances themselves are not iniquitous.

Wine isn't evil, Christ drank wine.  Pork isn't evil/unclean. 

Eating a steak in July with a side of lobster violates the old law and the WoW.  Neither are iniquitous items. 

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I was playing with words and referring to tobacco, alcohol, coffee, and now drugs. 

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

Bernard Gui

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31 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

If you let some Baja Blast touch your lips you might as well move on to crack cocaine.

A young lady friend in high school used to say, “Lips that touch Coca Cola will never touch mine.”

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Scott Lloyd Grand Master

Scott Lloyd

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On 5/14/2022 at 8:34 PM, Kenngo1969 said:

 

He's a poet?  Does he know it?

Excuse me while I ponder the ubiquity of iniquity. ;) :D

Just be careful not to get caught up in the paralysis of analysis. 

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The Nehor Grand Master

The Nehor

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3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

A young lady friend in high school used to say, “Lips that touch Coca Cola will never touch mine.”

Pepsi fans are THE WORST!

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

Bernard Gui

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On 5/14/2022 at 10:34 PM, Kenngo1969 said:

 

He's a poet?  Does he know it?

Excuse me while I ponder the ubiquity of iniquity. ;) :D

You’re a poet

and you don’t know it,

but your feet surely show it.

They’re long fellows.

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ksfisher Grand Master

ksfisher

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On 5/14/2022 at 10:15 PM, Kenngo1969 said:

I'm lusting after that steak and lobster, so I guess I'm violating both the Word of Wisdom and the Law of Chastity! :P

:huh: :unknw: :huh:

;) :D

Coveting your neighbors entree.

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