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I like to listen to others that share different beliefs than me. I try to respect those differences, but will also challenge those beliefs to sort out truth from dogma. I feel that people have often let religious dogma overshadow the basic message of Christ. I adhere to simple truths. Love God, love others, let God judge and worry about my own faults.
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This is how ridiculous things are and have been for some time now. Take a look at this news cast. https://www.mediamatters.org/newsmax/newsmax-host-gender-and-aliens-you-never-have-seen-alien-peeing-standing-movie sorry I haven't ever figured out how to insert a video clip. Here is part of his diatribe definitely referencing th ongoing transgender war propaganda
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Here is an article that talks about the myth of a revival. There are a bunch of articles addressing this issue. https://www.christianpost.com/voices/is-the-christian-revival-a-myth-the-truth-over-the-viral-data.html There are also a bunch of articles about the myth that there is a religious revival in the U.S as well. Here is the summary from ChatGPT Recent claims of a U.S. religious revival, particularly among Gen Z, are largely a myth driven by anecdotal stories and misinterpreted data. Sociological data shows a stabilization of religious decline rather than a nationwide resurgence, with church attendance and belief remaining far lower than in previous decades. Nehor is dead on. right. Anyone feel like they are being manipulated?
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Society meaning you, since almost 1 million people attend gay pride parade in San Francisco and find no problem with the event. And that doesn't even include the television audience. Perhaps you have an Utah bubble mentality on what you think is inappropriate and society should be outraged to meet your point of view. But that point of view is not necessarily universally agreed upon throughout the world or even this country. Maybe you are relying a bit too much on your echo chamber web sites you cruise if you think everything you mentioned is considered sexualizing children by the rest of society What is ironic is while that Utah outlook seems perfectly fine with polygamy, I don't think the majority of the world shares that same point of view. So maybe you can understand that you really can't assume "society" has a right and a duty to conform to your beliefs.
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wow you completely missed the whole point of my post. Not surprising when you have a one minded agenda I find your high horse morality judgement to be so totally lacking because you ignore completely other sexually charged events, celebrities, beaches, etc as somehow ok. And as a word of warning just incase you are completely ignorant of such things, but after spending 14 summers sailing in Europe, there are plenty of thongs, topless women, speedos, and naked people on the beaches there. I spent several of those years in Barcelona. In particular, there is a promenade that follows the beach the entire length of the city. Some of those beaches have 4 head shower where you can rinse off the sand. People strip totally naked and wouldn't even think of keeping their sandy bathing suits on. These showers are about 10' from the promenade with a constant stream of people and nothing blocking their view. Those poor european children must be scarred for life. I mean the beaches make any gay pride event definitely look way more G rated. Again, this just points out the diversity of how parents choose to raise their children. So yeah, my life experiences seems much different than yours. Maybe other parents have had a different life experience than you as well. And Do you think you know other people's children better than they do and should be able to dictate what they are allowed or not allowed to bring their children to? And In the video that you posted, there were also a lot of parents present at the drag show event. The fact that these events continue to be popular tells me that these parents choose to bring their children to these events more than once. Which means they are perfectly clear what their children are going to see. I have talked to some of these parents as well. They tell me about how much they enjoyed the event and how they were happy their children saw the parade. Why would they say that? Most respond that in their opinion, more than anything, gay pride events celebrate diversity. They celebrate that you can be different than that one single monolithic standard that you might have. People can have different ideas on how they choose to live their lives. Their children can made different decisions than the ones they have made. Frankly it is one of the biggest reasons why I love living in San Francisco. This is not a city that the population conforms to a very narrow dictation of how you are suppose to live your life. And just about everything else I posted. You are so worried that you wouldn't get your diatribe out which was really the only thing you wanted to do isn't it. Cut and pasted from anonymous posters on your narrow search for anything you think might stick. Totally ignoring the fact that almost a million people feel differently than your world view in just the San Francisco pride parade alone. Obviously you don't want a discussion, you want a chance to do your tired normal often repeated diatribe. Stay away from gay pride events. Don't go near them. Don't go to the Mediterranean. Don't go to Asia where their views on sexuality is very different than yours. Stay in your little Utah bubble. If no one came to these events, then you might have a point. And if you think what goes on is so horrible, shouldn't your anger be directed to the actual people who bring their children to the event? They must find something different going on that is more important than you do. I also might add that the San Francisco gay pride parade is televised locally. Do you think it might be possible that your far right web sites might be trying to stir up as much prejudice as possible by bias reporting of the events?
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I have a friend that is 22 years old. Just graduated from University and has his first job that is a fantastic job in the tech business. He got his degree in Southern California, but other than his college years, has always lived with his parents. He has been a straight A student his whole life. His family is Asian and very traditional. They have huge expectations on him and at this point he has lived up to those expectations. Now that he has graduated and has a great job, they are putting not so subtle pressure for him to find a wonderful woman and start a family. But he is gay. It is one of the main reasons why he got his own apartment. He is terrified to tell his parents. Sometimes statistics on how many people accept gay marriage or are friendly to the LGBT community really doesn't matter. If you can't understand that, then I am afraid nothing I will say will get you to understand that sometimes statistics are meaningless.
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I am going to sum up my answer to your lengthy post by putting some perspective on all of your examples. I haven't gone to a lot of pride parades. And the only one I have been to is the one held in San Francisco. A couple were enough for me because they tend to be pretty repetitive. If you have seen one, you have seen them all. That said, the San Francisco pride parade brings in about 1 million people, which is pretty insane. Evidently a lot of people love the parade and the vibe that surrounds the event. I did notice that many parents bring their kids to the parade. They are the parents, not me, not you, but them. In the video that you posted, there were also a lot of parents present at the drag show event. The fact that these events continue to be popular tells me that these parents choose to bring their children to these events more than once. Which means they are perfectly clear what their children are going to see. I have talked to some of these parents as well. They tell me about how much they enjoyed the event and how they were happy their children saw the parade. Why would they say that? Most respond that in their opinion, more than anything, gay pride events celebrate diversity. They celebrate that you can be different than that one single monolithic standard that you might have. People can have different ideas on how they choose to live their lives. Their children can made different decisions than the ones they have made. Frankly it is one of the biggest reasons why I love living in San Francisco. This is not a city that the population conforms to a very narrow dictation of how you are suppose to live your life. I remember visiting my brother several years ago when he was living in Sandy Utah. Like a lot of neighborhoods in Utah, the Mormon church was just a couple of blocks from his house, 10 mutes before church was about to start, almost every garage door in the neighborhood went up, a Surban pulled out, there was literally a traffic jam on the block for about 5 minutes until everyone was in the church parking lot. Quite honestly it freaked me out. It is definitely not the environment I want to live or the environment I wanted to raise my children. So maybe in Utah, everyone has the exact same agreed upon prescribed way their children should be raised, but personally, I find life way more full and interesting and prefer to have diversity in opinions and ideas of how people raise their children. Since you asked, I do personally believe that not every pride type event is suitable for every child. Even in a single family, for some children it would be acceptable and for others not. I think the biggest pushback I am going to give you is you seem to be condemning the events offered but say noting about the choices the parents are making. Do you believe all gay pride type events should be stopped because some parents are ok with their children attending? Do you think you know other peoples children better than they do and should be able to dictate what they are allowed or not allowed to bring their children to? My suggestion? Don't take your children to gay pride type events. You seem to think it is inappropriate to them. And I respect that decision. But I don't think you have the right to tell about 1 million people that a gay pride type event is harmful to their children and the event should not allow anyone under 21 to attend. And you don't have the right to judge others based on what you think is acceptable. I find your high horse morality judgement to be so totally lacking because you ignore completely other sexually charged events, celebrities, beaches, etc as somehow ok. And as a word of warning just incase you are completely ignorant of such things, but after spending 14 summers sailing in Europe, there are plenty of thongs, topless women, speedos, and naked people on the beaches there. I spent several of those years in Barcelona. In particular, there is a promenade that follows the beach the entire length of the city. Some of those beaches have 4 head shower where you can rinse off the sand. People strip totally naked and wouldn't even think of keeping their sandy bathing suits on. These showers are about 10' from the promenade with a constant stream of people and nothing blocking their view. Those poor european children must be scarred for life. I mean the beaches make any gay pride event definitely look way more G rated. Again, this just points out the diversity of how parents choose to raise their children. So yeah, my life experiences seems much different than yours. Maybe other parents have had a different life experience than you as well.
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So the experiment was to tease the gays to see what turns them on the most and they concluded that naked men were preferred over pictures of David??? This is like asking if rain is really water. I've never been turned on sexually by the statue of David. Naked men? duh. The whole thing sounds like those doing the electrical shock should have been the ones needing to be experimented on.
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I don't quite understand this. You admit that drag shows are not inherently "sexual" but you object to them because Drag shows are frequently and deliberately sexualized??? Yet you seem to object to any child even seeing a drag queen. Not because it is inherently sexual, but because the person in drag is a gay man dressed as a woman. Would that be correct? Do you also object when women wear male clothing like suits, tuxedos, mens shirts etc? Every drag show that has adult humor I have ever seen that were all held in a bar or night club that served alcohol. By the very nature of their location, no minors are allowed into bars, so no children are seeing drag shows that are meant for adult entertainment. Have you ever seen a "drag show" of this nature somewhere other than a bar? If you have seen such a show, were the child's parents present also? Have you ever seen a drag queen read a story in a library to children where the parents were not also present? How about instead of rant, a regular bringing up of the evils of drag shows and how harmful it is to children because, well, they aren't inherently sexual, children should not be exposed to anything you disapprove of. Yeah me too. But as you said, drag queens are not inherently sexual. So why do you keep attacking them as harmful to children? Hypercritical is definitely the right word. Hypocritical is how you label your remarks. I can see your point. Yet, it seems pretty accurate if you have this campaign against drag shows as being inappropriate for children because it is sexual, but don't pick up the crusade against women dressed in provocative bikinis, entertainers like Dolly Pardon, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Cher, and well just about every other entertainer, playing with Barbie dolls, going to proms, perfume ads, movies stars, even old ones like Mae West, Marliyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Gretta Garbo, and on and on. and are only hypercritical of anything LGBT related that you think is sexualized. Usually town down the raunch reading stories to children in a library???? How often do drag queens get raunchy in libraries ready stories to children??? Seriously, you have some issues you really need to evaluate more carefully
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You seem to be clueless on this issue since you repeat the phrase "I don't know what this means" Of course you do. Because every gay person just loves choosing to be gay and all the crap that comes with it. Have you read your comments not only on this thread but every single thread you start that is designed to attach the LGBT community? Any support for the LGBT community is certainly not coming from you and your ilk.
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Oh so your objection against drag queens is that they dress sexually. Do you go on similar campaigns against women dressed in provocative bikinis, entertainers like Dolly Pardon, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Cher, and well just about every other entertainer, playing with Barbie dolls, going to proms, perfume ads, movies stars, even old ones like Mae West, Marliyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Gretta Garbo, and on and on. Where are your rants for any of those sexualized behavior? Why do you only focus on the LGBT community? Sounds so hypercritical to me. Butt hey, if we could just make it illegal for drag queens to ready stories in the library, no child would be traumatized by seeing something like that.
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Maybe all you "I don't know what this means" explains why you have very little understanding of what it is like grow up hating that you are gay and why can't I just be normal like everyone else. It is a battle that everyone who is gay fights within themselves until they realize that no matter how hard they try, what aversion therapy they are willing to go to, what electrical shock therapy they are willing to try, what loss of family and friends this will mean in their lives, how much they are bullied by not only their peers but adults, at the end of the day they will still be gay. Healing from that trauma are the first steps in realizing that it is ok to be gay, even if it seems the whole world wants to shame you out of it.
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We have seen you taking shots at drag queens numerous times. It seems to be one of you go to arguments to gin up people against the LGBT community. I wondered what the comparison would be between drag queens and Mormon bishops convicted of child abuse. Even I was shocked by the results. This is what Chat GBT reported. Maybe you should reconsider your regular degrading and unfounded disparity of the horrible drag queens. I think I might just keep this research as a reminder every time you feel the need to attack this group.
