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    Looks for truth over dogma

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    I like to listen to others that share different beliefs than me. I try to respect those differences, but will also challenge those beliefs to sort out truth from dogma. I feel that people have often let religious dogma overshadow the basic message of Christ. I adhere to simple truths. Love God, love others, let God judge and worry about my own faults.

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  1. Humm, interesting. Maybe this is Mormon folklore. I did find several sources that said he was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. http://www.ldsfilm.com/lds_tv.html https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/famous-mormons.28827/ But his Wikipedia page lists him as a Methodist. And I found this Youtube video of an interview with him. He is smoking through the entire video. I also read that a Baptist minister conducted his funeral. So I think I feel for the Mormon folklore that I heard growing up which evidently is not true
  2. You do know that Dan Blocker who played Hoss was a member of the Church. I wonder if that had anything to do with how the script was written.
  3. Has any Egyptologist ever been given copies of the papyrus and asked to translate it with no knowledge of the whole Book of Abraham connection? It seems to me that, as some claim, if the papyrus does contain the words of Abraham written by his own hand, then any competent Egyptologist should be able to translate it and roughly come up with the text that is in the Pearl of Great Price. From all that I have read, that would never happen. More likely their translation would be text similar to the common burial text found in multiple coffins. If the text differs from the Book of
  4. Thanks Pogi for the additional information. It is interesting that dictionaries do not include a more broader view of the term Gentile.
  5. Rolls eyes. I guess we will just have to get used to you posting speculative posts with NO credible sources even when asked for a CFR that support your made up ideas and views for a little while until the web moderators get tired of you not following the rules. You have yet to post a credible source for your speculative idea that the the Welsh people come from the tribe of Benjamin, let alone to the leap that Big Ben is named after the Tribe of Benjamin. This board is not some crazy theory site that might exist elsewhere on the internet. Part of the rules for posting on this site is a
  6. There still seems to be quite a bit of confusion on what exactly is a gentile. I offer the definition of gentile to show that while members of the Church have changed the meaning, it is not how the rest of the world defines what a gentile is. gen·tile /ˈjentīl/ adjective 1.
  7. Wow you just speculate about everything, and fail to provide any link to where you come up with this stuff or identify it as your opinion. We all have the internet. This is what I have found, which sounds way more passable than your speculation The fact that Sir Benjamin Hall's name is on the bell seems like pretty solid evidence.
  8. I disagree. The entire world refers to gentiles as simply being non Jews. It is only the Mormon church that has decided a gentile can refer to everyone that is a non Mormon. Those are the only terms used in for the word gentile. The quote by Alan Osmond is correct. There are not a lot of different contexts for this word.
  9. Mormons have somewhat muddied the meaning of gentile. It has been used by the church to refer to anyone who is not Mormon. But if you look up the word gentile, you will find it simply means someone who is not a Jew. The house of Israel refers to all the 12 tribes. Just because you are from the house of Israel does not mean you are a Jew. 10 of those tribes are lost when they were conquered by the Assyrians, never to return to their lands again. The tribe of Benjamin and part of the Levi have somewhat been absorbed into the tribe of Judah. But strictly speaking, if you are from the t
  10. A Gentile is anyone who is not from the tribe of Judah. So basically the entire world are gentiles unless the person is a Jew (from the tribe of Judah} Ephraim and Manasseh are the sons of Joseph and part of the 12 tribes the Old Testament talks about. They. are all Israelites since they are all descent of Jacob/Israel. They are separate tribes from the tribe of Judah.
  11. I apologize if I misunderstood your position. But in all fairness, it seems like a LOT of us were confused by your statements. This is the statement I responded specifically to. (bold added by me) That statement you made seems to clearly state that without God all moral codes are moral relativism. Just why did you say "without God" if you weren't coming from a position that there is a God? By implication, you are stating that with God moral codes are not moral relativism, but subject to the eternal truth of God. Hopefully you can see why I as well as others believed you to be
  12. Lol. You picked on the wrong person to attack. YOU make assumptions about me and everyone else that you know NOTHING about. For the past 14 years, I have lived internationally for 6 months out of the year. I have been to these countries, some of which you probably couldn't even locate on a map. Albania Andorra Austria Bahamas Barbados Canada Chile China Croatia Denmark Fiji France Gibraltar Germany Greece Hungry Indonesia Italy Japan Malta Mexico Monoco Montenegro Morocco
  13. And so we see how religion twists and turns things to make humanity think they need to be dependent on them. I am not saying there is or isn't a God. So who put that thought in my head? OR maybe I am capable of making decisions and choices without God or Satan telling me what to do. Every thought does NOT come from either God or Satan. If that were so, we end up just being puppets.
  14. Well it has become evident that you can only view morality from your religious perspective. Why does God have to be involved in any moral code. (countless examples have been given of moral codes that God had nothing to do with) And what happens if the moral code does not come from God? Either way the moral code can be identical. The only difference a God makes is a claim that some omniscient being approves of what man has come up with. And why is that approval necessary? The answer to that can only come from a religious perspective.
  15. You are talking religion, not morality. Morality can be rooted in religion, but it doesn't have to be. Countless examples have been posted on this thread of moral codes that never came from God.
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