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  1. I think living in Mormonism is like living in a small bubble. You only have a tiny view. Those that leave often speak about finding a whole new and fascinating world that they would have never known if not for leaving. They face new struggles as well. I think it is naive to think by leaving you won’t have challenges. You will, but you will also find new happiness. Church leaders often teach that true happiness can only be found in the church. This is completely false. There is much joy outside the church. As far as political views, many people who leave find their political views changi
  2. Where does Heavenly Mother fit into this paradigm?
  3. Nothing on BYUTV is mainstream. Would love for our Canadian friend Duncan to watch some of these programs with his family to determine if his family completely falls apart and into the grasp of Satan, or if his family determines they really don’t care and aren’t affected.
  4. Here is a little information on the 2020 statistics: hopefully my math is correct. 2020 membership: 16,663,663 2020 convert baptisms: 125,930 2020 8 year old children baptized: 65,440 2019 membership: 16,565,036 If you take the 2019 total membership and add in the 2020 new convert baptisms and the 8 year old children baptisms the total is 16,756,406. If you then subtract the 2020 total membership you find the total number of people who are no longer on the membership records due to death or leaving the church. That number is 92,743, if my math is correct.
  5. I value the importance of life, and also think a woman and her partner should be able to make the decision that is best for them. The church leaves a very grey area regarding life until the birth of the child. It is only after birth the infant can qualify for sacred ordinances in the temple.
  6. I always thought lazy learners are those who believe information without investigating critically both sides of the argument.
  7. I hope when Oaks is President he tours many foreign countries and explains to them the greatness of the US Constitution and how much better the USA is than their countries. I did like that Oaks addressed the Right wing pro Trump, Pro riot crowd of the church and their horrendous attacks on the capital and constitution.
  8. I was surprised he talked about the US constitution simply because Pres. Nelson had previously spoken about how the church is a global church. Then to have a talk that often alienates or produces the “eye roll” from people of non-USA countries was a bit contradictory....
  9. I used to have the need to believe in Joseph Smith. As I have progressed in my knowledge and understanding, I no longer have that need....
  10. I don’t think the problem is an increasing secular society. In 1955, an astute Rabbi suggested , "It is customary to blame secular science and anti-religious philosophy for the eclipse of religion in modern society. It would be more honest to blame religion for its own defeats. Religion declined not because it was refuted, but because it became irrelevant, dull, oppressive, insipid. When faith is completely replaced by creed, worship by discipline, love by habit; when the crisis of today is ignored because of the splendor of the past; when faith becomes an heirloom rather than a living founta
  11. I think one thing these data show is churches and church leaders are becoming increasingly irrelevant.
  12. Building a mall and providing funds to an insurance company sounds like acceptable use for charitable/religious funds? I don’t think they would go for that either in Australia.
  13. Thanks for making my point. The Corporation of the President of the Church....is a 5013C entity. As a non-profit entity all donations received can only be used for charitable reasons (ie. Cannot be used for bailing out an insurance company) and the entity must show that it is actually using those funds for charitable reasons (ie. Not hoarding the money and blessings of the members)
  14. I agree with Huntsman on this case. We know from statements from our French Presiding Bishop that tithing dollars were used to fund the City Creek Mall. Our church has been receiving money donated for charitable services and either hoarding it or using it to support businesses not allowed per IRS regulations (ie bailing out DMBA).
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