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  1. Revelation 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
  2. Nobody in authority ever taught they were magic. The covenant states that wearing them faithfully will have a shield a protection to against the power of the destroyer until they have finished their work. Protection from the destroyer so we can live to complete our missions isn't magical, it's divine.
  3. I would say that until there are a people willing and striving to do all the musts to the best of their ability as opposed to finding excuses not to do them that we will never be prepared for the return of the Savior.
  4. "which you must wear throughout your life". Doesn't sound optional. 🤷🏻
  5. Leaving aside the apocalyptic doomsayers I still think it's fascinating how few latter-day saints actually believe we're anywhere close to the end of the world. Somewhere we stopped being a millennialist Church. The idea that building Zion for the Lord's imminent second coming and the New Jerusalem doesn't seem to fit our current perspective much. Do we even believe we're living in the literal last days anymore? Matthew 24 describes a timeline for the end but it's anybody's guess how far along it we are. It's the warning at the end I think best describes our current attitude. Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
  6. Good. I wonder if they'll keep it as a historical attraction or renovate it for use as an actual temple. Historically speaking it was more of a tabernacle than a temple since the ordinances hadn't been restored yet.
  7. They can. The Church is an earthly organization. The orders of the priesthood are not. I don't recall reading about Moses, Abraham, Enoch etc being members of the Church. Priesthood authority presides over and runs the Church. The Church organization doesn't preside over priesthood. It's President Nelson's priesthood authority and keys that run the Church, not his title as Church President. Brigham Young had it right: “I do not care who leads the Church, even though it were Ann Lee, but one thing I must know, and that is what God says about it. I have the Keys and the means of obtaining the mind of God on the subject."
  8. How you interpret God incarnate makes all the difference.
  9. So basically these blessings are love the sinner, not the sin? Nothing wrong with that. As long as they're careful to hold their standards.
  10. Well they're not required but I was just curious if anything had been said about their reduction in use. Some of the smaller temples are much less recognizable as temples without them, looking like fancy stake centers. (Obviously the bigger ornate temples are still recognizable without them). This one looks so much like a traditional Church house. Very excited to tour the Taylorsville one next year - below (and of course the Manti renovation which I'm praying is as nice as St. George).
  11. Christ is the only path to God the Father so I think it's impossible to speak of one without the other. But I also think in our adoration of our Savior we sometimes slip into sectarian habits that contradict the Savior's instructions. Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. The Savior knew it was his Father's kingdom, his Father's will, his Father that answers prayers, and his Father that was good. He just did the will of his Father and inherited everything from him. Sometimes I think our members would rather be more Protestant and pray to Christ since they are Trinitarian. It contradicts the Savior's instructions to me.
  12. I would say it probably doesn't matter since you don't need to be a member in order to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. I think there are ordinances where it makes a difference, like ordaining to an office before conferring priesthood.
  13. Question - are we done with Moroni statues? Looking at renderings of temples under construction and he's very absent. Lot's of spires and domes.
  14. Portland is beautiful. Seattle comes from the same architectural era as the London Temple, which I have a soft spot for since my parents were married there.
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