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  1. I can remember the airport, but have no recollection of getting there. Too long ago, I guess.
  2. How did it used to happen? Now that you bring it up I don't remember how I got from the MTC to the SLC airport.
  3. Right, it doesn't seem like anything that revelation would be required to know. I do think the Lord can confirm what we do without necessarily making it a revelation.
  4. Thanks. I'm glad the prior messages from the First Presidency about small pox and polio were mentioned. I haven't heard any of the anti-vaxers wishing for those diseases to return.
  5. I had literally thought of that scripture as well, but literally didn't believe that it would be literally understood. Literally.
  6. I think it seems like a foreign language because you are literally not using the work literal correctly. When you are literally using the word literal you are literally using it in a non-literal way. This is literally why so many people have tried to literally tell you that you're literally using the word non-literally.
  7. I doubt that you could find anyone who believes this except for you.
  8. Where would you put the resources that are in the Women's section then?
  9. Moderna's vaccine is the most effective, but Pfizer and J&J also protect well, CDC-led study says https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/health/moderna-vaccine-most-effective-cdc-study/index.html
  10. If we attaching different meanings to the same words then I could see how that could lead to confusion.
  11. They did choose to live a mortal life, which entails both a physical and spiritual death. But they also chose the pathway that would lead to eternal life. And not only for them, but for all who would come after them and choose to obey God's commands as well.
  12. I think when we speak of "being worthy" we're meaning that their is a minimum standard of "worthiness" that the Lord expects of those who would enter into covenants with Him.
  13. They did. "Individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. In making that determination, we recommend that, where possible, they counsel with a competent medical professional about their personal circumstances and needs." https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-leaders-covid-19-vaccine
  14. I think it's unfortunate that the government would have to even consider mandating vaccinations. Unless there is a legitimate medical reason for someone not to be, why would anyone not? Why are people choosing to die on the hill of individual rights when there is a way out of the current crisis? https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/30/politics/covid-19-deaths-conservative-radio/index.html The story of Wallace, who leaves behind a wife and three children with a fourth on the way in a month or so -- is particularly devastating. As the San Angelo (Texas) Standard-Times wrote of Wallace: "At first, Caleb refused to get tested for COVID-19, or go to the hospital. "'He was so hard-headed,' Jessica [his wife] said. "'He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests.' "'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'" Do you think now Caleb Wallace is talking about how during his time on earth he stuck up for his individual rights or about how he left behind is wife and four children? The supreme court has had to rule before that the state can mandate vaccination, and I'm guessing it will have to do it again.
  15. I think this quote expresses the idea better: 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt alove the Lord thy God with all thy bheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy cmind. 38 This is the first and great acommandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt alove thy neighbour as thyself. (Matthew 22)
  16. Everyone must now be vaccinated and show proof that they've paid their tithing in the last week, written in their journal for 20 days in a row, taken a casserole to a new mother, and have at least a 60 day supply of jello in their food storage before being allowed in the building
  17. Mea cupla. Fixed it. So you would say that the rights of the individual trump the good of the community, if I understand you right. "Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others." Jacobson v Mass (1905)
  18. It seems though, that it is the unvaccinated who are keeping the pandemic alive. Do the rights of the individual to not be vaccinated trump the rights of the community to be rid of the virus? How about the rights of those who cannot be vaccinated because of age or other health reasons?
  19. I think agency involves more than just the ability to make choices. There is also the taking on of the responsibility for the outcome of those choices. Before the fall Adam and Eve could clearly make choices. They could choose what time to get up in the morning, what to eat for lunch, etc. But until the partook of the fruit they had not responsibility before God for the outcomes of those choices. They could not sin, but by the same token they could not be rewarded for doing good. By partaking of the fruit Adam and Eve became agents for themselves and assumed the risks, and the rewards, of a mortal life.
  20. The act, as you say, makes you clean, not the water.
  21. What does the literal water actually cleanse? I don't think anyone would say that water is the actual agent that cleanses us from sin. Being immersed in the water symbolizes the cleansing power of the Spirit that is acting upon the individual being baptized. The Spirit purifies. The water is the physical symbol of that cleansing.
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