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  1. Once again, everything you have written here resonates 100 per cent with my personal experiences too. Thanks! Peace and confidence are grounded in a relationship with Heavenly Father that is characterised by genuine revelation and a sincere willingness to trust Him with all our heart. I understand fully why your encounter with Elder Perry didn't feel forced ... because there was no conflict.
  2. Angels look like any 'generic guy'. 100 per cent correct!
  3. This exactly parallels the vaccination issue I mentioned above. I have no doubt that God can use revelation to warn certain individuals that they should steer clear of certain vaccines for reasons of potential complications if it is wisdom in Him to do so. As @CV75 keeps making very clear, in such circumstances, there is peace, not conflict ... and definitely no desire to 'correct' or circumvent the apostles. This is a very different situation to being opposed to vaccination as a matter of 'conscience', which is almost certainly a case of privileging our preferred social, cultural, ideological, and/or political values such that they create conflict with apostolic teachings, engendering turmoil in our lives. In my experience, turmoil is a clear indication that I am straying from the Lord's way.
  4. Except that one uses tu when praying in Portuguese, which in Brazil is exactly equivalent to using thou in English.
  5. The Lord has always been able to personalise prophetic messages through genuine revelation. As Elder Packer taught in his 'infamous' address to Church employees, those people are both at peace and prosper. Being told through revelation that one is an exception to the general counsel is fundamentally different to determining that the prophets have lost their way. I recently quoted Thomas B. Marsh on this forum:
  6. Precisely. In my opinion, the endowment teaches this principle and actually has us rehearse it. Once we are out of God's immediate presence, we are invited to heed the words of 'angels' who are eventually identified as prophets. As we first recognise and then choose to follow 'true messengers', they help us come back into communion with the Lord Himself. Yes to all of the above, but I suspect that most important is the fact that they have the Lord's endorsement. He has specifically chosen them to teach us how to practise submitting to His will. I have never seen rejection of prophetic authority end well. I have never seen it lead a person closer to the Lord Himself.
  7. Same. If anything, the existence of some kind of 'giant mega-fund' has actually increased my motivation! Though I prefer to think of it as a 'war chest' ...
  8. I'm more interested in genuine revelation than I am in my 'conscience'. My nephew's wife's conscience assured her that all vaccines are evil. She even wrote a letter to the First Presidency and chastised them for being wrong on this point in relation to Covid (and then posted it on Facebook, which is how I know about it). Her conscience led her to a very long stay in an ICU and months on bottled oxygen, though she is finally off now. As documented on certain websites, American cemeteries are now filled with the graves of people whose consciences assured them they were better informed and morally superior to public health authorities as well. In a priesthood leadership training meeting with Elder Bednar, someone in the Q&A asked about how to distinguish revelation. His response: out of necessity, most revelation will inform us that we are wrong. I'm convinced that the Lord requires us to heed prophets because He knows full well that, if we can't humble ourselves enough to do that, we will never be able to follow Him. Too many Saints convince themselves that somehow it's easier to follow God 'directly', but scripture suggests otherwise. How many times did Jesus preach that rejecting apostles would lead to a rejection of Him?
  9. Many thanks for sharing this story. When I was an undergraduate student in America, my Latter-day Saint housemates and I one year identified two individuals who were so screwed up that they would be the last people on the planet to ever join the Church. One of them was a journalism student from Texas who regularly used his presence in the student newspaper to scream about the evils of Christianity and -- worst of all, in his mind! -- Latter-day Saints. The other was a woman who had some kind of fatal attraction to my Cherokee housemate, to the point of committing acts that could easily have been classed as sexual assault and stalking. Before the year was out, both of them had become members. It was an important lesson. For many years now, I have said that, if the Lord is willing to forgive my depravity, then everyone has hope. I had an opportunity back in December to repeat that message. As EQ president, I felt impressed to reach out to a young man who hasn't been to church since he was 12. To my surprise, he responded, and we've had a few exchanges since. In one of the first ones, he asked me if I was going to invite him back to church My reply: 'Only if you want me to'. He then wrote that he doubted God would want him back after all the sins and crimes that he has committed. I assured him that, on a very personal level, I know that He does because He has always wanted me back. After all, we are all in the same boat when it comes to sin and redemption. I like James's message on this point: 'For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill'. The divisions between eternal kingdoms are not based on any kind of 'hierarchy' of the sins we commit. All sin separates us from God. Instead, what are our motivations for repenting? A man who has to experience the torment of Spirit Prison's temporary hell before he is willing to accept the Saviour's offer of salvation will find himself in the Telestial Kingdom whether the sin he refused to give up was gossiping or murder. Lastly, any suggestion that this or that person lacks the capacity to fully repent and follow Christ is the doctrine of devils.
  10. You're more likely to run across you (singular) and youse (plural).
  11. Great Pretender: If I dare 'pray wrong' at church, other members will judge me. Also Great Pretender: Most of you on this thread are praying wrong, and you need to stop.
  12. Nice. It's the way we were made to be in water. Though I suspect this is not the time of year for it in your parts ...
  13. See my additional comments above. Prayer in Brazil uses archaic pronouns exactly how prayer in English often does.
  14. They haven't. I was speaking Spanish to a sister at church just two Sundays ago, and I watched a YouTube video in (European) Portuguese during my lunch today. Interestingly, as I noted in the other thread, the 'language of prayer' in Portuguese requires the use of the second-person singular pronoun tu. In Brazil, this pronoun has almost entirely been replaced with the plural você -- an exact analogy of what happened in English with the singular pronoun thou. In Portugal, however, tu remains in common use, and the plural você is avoided. This means that when a person prays in Portugal, s/he uses familiar pronouns, but when a person prays in Brazil, s/he uses archaic pronouns. The language of prayer nonetheless remains the same.
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