Rain Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Chum said: Son #4 seems to have lost his sense of smell today. He's been ~mildly sick for a while but not with typical Covid symptoms. He had 2 neg PCR tests (as did I). Our workplace emptied out after employees tested positive, 2 weeks ago. I know one (possibly 3) people w/ multiple neg PCR tests - and pos molecular OTC tests. They checked all the Covid boxes. Given all this I've developed some mistrust of PCR tests. Not sure what to do about that. Except for the loss of taste and smell my husband had all the common covid symptoms with his pertussis. Worst "flu" he has had. The second round was a little better. His covid tests were both negative. 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 17 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: If you read my first post, he's just someone I found online. It's been fascinating to watch a strong New Age (right term?) Christian community respond to the incursion of Delta into their midst. Apologies for my new obsession, but here's one more update. The planned hospital-break appears to have run into some kind of obstacle: Quote The goal is still to get him well enough to get him out of there [hospital] and into a better course of treatment. Link to comment
Calm Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: Apologies for my new obsession, but here's one more update. The planned hospital-break appears to have run into some kind of obstacle: So he is too sick for even them to risk it. I thought for a second the obstacle was someone reporting them to hospital security. Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Calm said: So he is too sick for even them to risk it. Yep. Crazy, hey? So now they're dependent on letting the hospital try to save him 'enough' that they can take over and do the real job ... My prediction: he dies, and they all assure themselves that it was the hospital 'protocol' that killed him. Edited September 7, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan Link to comment
JustAnAustralian Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: My prediction: he dies, and they all assure themselves that it was the hospital 'protocol' that killed him. From what you've been posting, I wouldn't be betting against you. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 How much did he take? 😳 2 Link to comment
gurn Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Since this didn’t come from a credible news source, we don’t know if the patient even exists. Link to comment
Chum Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, gurn said: Since this didn’t come from a credible news source, we don’t know if the patient even exists. About which journalist employer are you referring? Link to comment
gurn Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chum said: About which journalist employer are you referring? I was referring to the nurse Carla Twitter post of The Nehor. I missed the quote button. I couldn’t find a legitimate source for the story. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, gurn said: Since this didn’t come from a credible news source, we don’t know if the patient even exists. By that standard I have no evidence that you exist. Of course it could be a lie. Virtually everything can be. Edited September 8, 2021 by The Nehor Link to comment
bsjkki Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Colorado stats. Case counts are hard to compare. Especially because of the UK study Calm posted yesterday. 63% of vaccinated people are asymptomatic. Their cases are mild so they are not being tested. Hospitalizations and death tell an important story that vaccines work. https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/publicly-available-data-reveals-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccines-in-colorado?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true 3 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 This whole thing is shaking my faith in the concept that God reserved his elect for the last days. 1 Link to comment
Robert J Anderson Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, bsjkki said: Where do you get this? Also, does IHC break down the numbers by age? Link to comment
Calm Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 I don’t do Twitter, so this won’t take you straight to the tweet. At the moment it is about the third tweet in the list: https://twitter.com/intermountain Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 The President is asking OSHA to require all employers with 100 or more employees to require either vaccination or regular Covid testing for their employees. It also mandates vaccination for all federal employees and federal contractors. This is going to be fun and the screaming about the constitution has already started despite the constitution having nothing to say on the matter. This will probably hit the Supreme Court quickly and there is precedent for mandatory vaccinations being allowed if the threat to public health is severe enough. Also: 4 Link to comment
SeekingUnderstanding Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Calm said: I don’t do Twitter, so this won’t take you straight to the tweet. At the moment it is about the third tweet in the list: https://twitter.com/intermountain For posterity: 2 Link to comment
bsjkki Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: The President is asking OSHA to require all employers with 100 or more employees to require either vaccination or regular Covid testing for their employees. It also mandates vaccination for all federal employees and federal contractors. This is going to be fun and the screaming about the constitution has already started despite the constitution having nothing to say on the matter. This will probably hit the Supreme Court quickly and there is precedent for mandatory vaccinations being allowed if the threat to public health is severe enough. Also: Shouldn’t this be in the other covid thread? Isn’t this thread more for more scientific topics? 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Hamba Tuhan Posted September 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Just FYI, I enrolled yesterday in a booster trial for Novavax and was screened today for participation. I am considered an eligible candidate. Unfortunately, I'm about one week behind where I need to be in my vaccination schedule, but they told me that they're having trouble finding enough people who were fully vaccinated early enough, so they went ahead and booked me in for the second week of October. I was told there is a 75 per cent chance that I'll be used. I'm really excited! And hopeful that they still use me! I'll provide updates in about a month. The trial lasts six months and involves getting one of 16 different versions of the vaccine administered in either two or three jabs. Plus about 8 blood samples. Edited September 10, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan 7 Link to comment
Teancum Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, The Nehor said: The President is asking OSHA to require all employers with 100 or more employees to require either vaccination or regular Covid testing for their employees. It also mandates vaccination for all federal employees and federal contractors. This is going to be fun and the screaming about the constitution has already started despite the constitution having nothing to say on the matter. This will probably hit the Supreme Court quickly and there is precedent for mandatory vaccinations being allowed if the threat to public health is severe enough. Also: Yep the President has thrown the gauntlet down and the screaming about violating the constitution and being Biden being a senile dictator has already started. Link to comment
pogi Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Robert J Anderson said: Where do you get this? Also, does IHC break down the numbers by age? Here's all the state data on hospitalizations (much more comprehensive than just IHC): https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/hosp.html Average age: 54 Percent with at least one pre-existing condition: 37.3% Keep in mind, this is cumulative from the beginning of the pandemic. So the current numbers are going to be skewed by this because there were much more old and vulnerable people hospitalized before vaccination efforts began. Edited September 10, 2021 by pogi 1 Link to comment
Tacenda Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 hours ago, The Nehor said: The President is asking OSHA to require all employers with 100 or more employees to require either vaccination or regular Covid testing for their employees. It also mandates vaccination for all federal employees and federal contractors. This is going to be fun and the screaming about the constitution has already started despite the constitution having nothing to say on the matter. This will probably hit the Supreme Court quickly and there is precedent for mandatory vaccinations being allowed if the threat to public health is severe enough. Also: I like that there is in place that if not vaccinated, weekly testing for Covid is needed. Sometimes we need some breathing room, a way to fight Covid for those that haven't come around to trusting the vaccine or has allergic reactions to vaccines. Link to comment
Robert J Anderson Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pogi said: Here's all the state data on hospitalizations (much more comprehensive than just IHC): https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/hosp.html Average age: 54 Percent with at least one pre-existing condition: 37.3% Keep in mind, this is cumulative from the beginning of the pandemic. So the current numbers are going to be skewed by this because there were much more old and vulnerable people hospitalized before vaccination efforts began. Here is what Johns Hopkins says about current hospital capacity in Utah: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/utah The Johns Hopkins data says current ICU capacity is at 73% two weeks ago and 71% one week ago. Edited September 10, 2021 by Robert J Anderson Link to comment
bsjkki Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Interesting data out of the UK. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/three-quarters-covid-patients-under-194446142.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAG5iCypqld7wZ9KLHfoCdUMMIyfY6AcXcN7tx6bhrA4N_A7EDwt7tdcr6UN1PjOXnKup6sYtioDMXqZMCWLUkTgGPMViswchm6yjW3ZhWhlveIsQ-lOvWWEmwWNi8Hoty37fMuyUPQHhwT5JomazEKjg1WgIopOTqFb1qMt7QywK For those over 50, 61 percent of hospitalized patients were vaccinated. For those under 50, 73 percent were unvaccinated. I do remember reading how the elderly, had a lower immune response to the vaccine than those who were younger. This is probably why a targeted booster shot roll out is happening. Edited September 10, 2021 by bsjkki 2 Link to comment
pogi Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Robert J Anderson said: Here is what Johns Hopkins says about current hospital capacity in Utah: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/utah The Johns Hopkins data says current ICU capacity is at 73% two weeks ago and 71% one week ago. This information is more current (yesterday) and from a more reliable Utah source - Utah health department: Quote Referral intensive care units, that can treat the most serious patients, are 92.5% full, and overall ICU usage is now at 88.2%. https://www.ksl.com/article/50237220/primary-childrens-seeing-critically-ill-kids-contract-covid-utah-confirms-2165-new-cases These numbers match the Utah State Dashboard: https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/hosp.html ICU's at intermountain are considered "functionally full" at 85% https://intermountainhealthcare.org/blogs/topics/covid-19/2020/11/covid-19-what-it-means-for-a-hospital-icu-to-be-at-capacity/ Edited September 10, 2021 by pogi 1 Link to comment
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