strappinglad Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 I strongly recommend viewing this 9 minute video. She covers most of the points raised here so far and even pogi might see validity in her approach. 1
The Nehor Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 I know her. Risinger has been pushing Ivermectin for some time. Late last year she was recommending it as a preventative. I see she has dialed that back a little. She has always tried to cast Ivermectin as promising and also hocked hydroxychlorquine back when it was popular as the ‘miracle cure’ and has gone to bat for America’s Frontline Doctors (far right political group masquerading as a medical association) when their misinformation was censored on YouTube as dangerous. They are the scammers who are overcharging and basically selling Ivermectin prescriptions to anyone desperate enough to pay them. I don’t know who is better off. The ones who get the prescription they paid for or the ones who get nothing and they take the money anyways. I would not be at all surprised to find she is making money from them in some way. 1
Tacenda Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 5 hours ago, The Nehor said: I know her. Risinger has been pushing Ivermectin for some time. Late last year she was recommending it as a preventative. I see she has dialed that back a little. She has always tried to cast Ivermectin as promising and also hocked hydroxychlorquine back when it was popular as the ‘miracle cure’ and has gone to bat for America’s Frontline Doctors (far right political group masquerading as a medical association) when their misinformation was censored on YouTube as dangerous. They are the scammers who are overcharging and basically selling Ivermectin prescriptions to anyone desperate enough to pay them. I don’t know who is better off. The ones who get the prescription they paid for or the ones who get nothing and they take the money anyways. I would not be at all surprised to find she is making money from them in some way. I wonder if Joe Rogan got his through her or a colleague. I watched a youtube with him and another guy talking about his quick recovery with Covid attributing it to many things he tried and Ivermectin was one of them. He's still coughing quite a bit though. He and this video shared of Risinger almost made me think twice about the treatment. Glad for your post to put me back to reality. https://www.facebook.com/jamie.beckert.7/videos/433163991435059
strappinglad Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 So , let's trash the messenger and ignore the message. When done to Fauci if he adjusts his message when new info comes out, well he is just following the science so leave him alone. 1
Bernard Gui Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Tacenda said: I wonder if Joe Rogan got his through her or a colleague. I watched a youtube with him and another guy talking about his quick recovery with Covid attributing it to many things he tried and Ivermectin was one of them. He's still coughing quite a bit though. He and this video shared of Risinger almost made me think twice about the treatment. Glad for your post to put me back to reality. https://www.facebook.com/jamie.beckert.7/videos/433163991435059 Coughing comes with the territory. Rogaining taste and smell takes a while, too.
strappinglad Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Rogaining taste So that's why there is that tickle in the throat ! 😊 1
Popular Post carbon dioxide Posted September 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Robert J Anderson said: Show me that Johns Hopkins is lying. Why do you always default to the corona virus is half full? We are dealing with a virus that 99.7% survive. We are also dealing with a virus that causes long term damage to quite a few people who survive. We are dealing with a virus that is filling hospitals. Even if they survive, they consume massive amounts of resources. When the hospitals are full of Covid, it harms all the non-Covid patients. So many people are willing to dish the problem off to doctors and nurses. They don't care how much they have to endure to keep these people alive. Then people use the great efforts they do keeping these people alive and declare the virus is not that big of a deal. Perhaps we need a few weeks where doctors and nurses go on strike. Stop treating all Covid patients and we will see the real mortality rate of the virus. Edited September 11, 2021 by carbon dioxide 5
Tacenda Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, carbon dioxide said: We are also dealing with a virus that causes long term damage to quite a few people who survive. We are dealing with a virus that is filling hospitals. Even if they survive, they consume massive amounts of resources. When the hospitals are full of Covid, it harms all the non-Covid patients. So many people are willing to dish the problem off to doctors and nurses. They don't care how much they have to endure to keep these people alive. Then people use the great efforts they do keeping these people alive and declare the virus is not that big of a deal. Perhaps we need a few weeks where doctors and nurses go on strike. Stop treating all Covid patients and we will see the real mortality rate of the virus. Yes to this!
The Nehor Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 2 hours ago, strappinglad said: So , let's trash the messenger and ignore the message. When done to Fauci if he adjusts his message when new info comes out, well he is just following the science so leave him alone. The credibility of the messenger matters. 3
Bernard Gui Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, strappinglad said: So that's why there is that tickle in the throat ! 😊 Pun intended. Nice pivot to the double pun! Edited September 11, 2021 by Bernard Gui
Calm Posted September 11, 2021 Author Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, strappinglad said: So , let's trash the messenger and ignore the message. When done to Fauci if he adjusts his message when new info comes out, well he is just following the science so leave him alone. Strapping, just using your post for convenience, yours isn’t any ‘worse’ than others… Guys and gals…you want to talk behaviour, go start your own thread please. Keep this one for good quality medical info, not debates please. 3
bsjkki Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/israeli-scientists-say-their-antiviral-drug-could-stop-covid-19-679437 A team of Israeli scientists say that a drug previously used in an uncontrolled fashion to treat HIV has a direct antiviral effect against coronavirus, sending patients home virus-free within only a few days. Code Pharma, which is headquartered in the Netherlands but has its research and development office in Israel and an Israeli CEO, recently completed a Phase I trial of its drug Codivir for use against coronavirus. On Monday, the Israeli research team that will support the Phase II trial applied for permission from the Helsinki Committee to move forward at the Barzilai Medical Center. The Phase II study, which will involve around 150 patients and is expected to launch in the next month, will also take place in Spain, Brazil and South Africa. According to Code Pharma CEO Zyon Ayni, the goal is to complete the trial within about three to six months and then already apply for emergency use authorization of the drug. 2
The Nehor Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, bsjkki said: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/israeli-scientists-say-their-antiviral-drug-could-stop-covid-19-679437 A team of Israeli scientists say that a drug previously used in an uncontrolled fashion to treat HIV has a direct antiviral effect against coronavirus, sending patients home virus-free within only a few days. Code Pharma, which is headquartered in the Netherlands but has its research and development office in Israel and an Israeli CEO, recently completed a Phase I trial of its drug Codivir for use against coronavirus. On Monday, the Israeli research team that will support the Phase II trial applied for permission from the Helsinki Committee to move forward at the Barzilai Medical Center. The Phase II study, which will involve around 150 patients and is expected to launch in the next month, will also take place in Spain, Brazil and South Africa. According to Code Pharma CEO Zyon Ayni, the goal is to complete the trial within about three to six months and then already apply for emergency use authorization of the drug. I am dubious. The makers of Codivir have been claiming their drug helps against covid since at least May of last year. Their claims went way beyond the evidence at the time. They made a similar announcement in December of last year and couldn’t back it up. I don’t trust anything that company says about the drug at this point. Hopefully these trials will clear up the issue and someone else can make the determination. I hope it turns out to work. An antiviral that works well against covid is needed.
Calm Posted September 15, 2021 Author Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, bsjkki said: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/israeli-scientists-say-their-antiviral-drug-could-stop-covid-19-679437 A team of Israeli scientists say that a drug previously used in an uncontrolled fashion to treat HIV has a direct antiviral effect against coronavirus, sending patients home virus-free within only a few days. Code Pharma, which is headquartered in the Netherlands but has its research and development office in Israel and an Israeli CEO, recently completed a Phase I trial of its drug Codivir for use against coronavirus. On Monday, the Israeli research team that will support the Phase II trial applied for permission from the Helsinki Committee to move forward at the Barzilai Medical Center. The Phase II study, which will involve around 150 patients and is expected to launch in the next month, will also take place in Spain, Brazil and South Africa. According to Code Pharma CEO Zyon Ayni, the goal is to complete the trial within about three to six months and then already apply for emergency use authorization of the drug. Hopefully this will work, but caution may be wise if I understand this article correctly based on the company’s overhyping the effect of the drug for HIV. https://www.treatmentactiongroup.org/cure/media-monitor/story-claims-that-gammora-represents-a-potential-hiv-cure/ Also: https://www.timesofisrael.com/firm-that-misled-about-covid-19-drug-now-claims-research-backs-up-claims/ Will be looking for more upto date info, so may find info that contradicts the above. Totally off topic, but feel the need to comment that choosing the name gammora for an HIV drug is a bit strange Edited September 15, 2021 by Calm 1
CV75 Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Calm said: Hopefully this will work, but caution may be wise if I understand this article correctly based on the company’s overhyping the effect of the drug for HIV. https://www.treatmentactiongroup.org/cure/media-monitor/story-claims-that-gammora-represents-a-potential-hiv-cure/ Also: https://www.timesofisrael.com/firm-that-misled-about-covid-19-drug-now-claims-research-backs-up-claims/ Will be looking for more upto date info, so may find info that contradicts the above. Totally off topic, but feel the need to comment that choosing the name gammora for an HIV drug is a bit strange I think they chose it as a namesake for this guy, who protects humanity 1
The Nehor Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 9 hours ago, CV75 said: I think they chose it as a namesake for this guy, who protects humanity Who can forget the Gamera song? Gamera! Gamera! Gamera is really neat! Gamera is filled with meat! We've been eating Gamera! Shell! Teeth! Eyes! Flames! Claws! Breath! Scales! Fun!! 1
The Nehor Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 WARNING: This study has not been through peer-review process yet and can and should be treated with skepticism. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.11.459844v1 An epidemiologist tries to break down what this could mean.
The Nehor Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 On a lighter note: Of course I got the vaccine with the stupid name. Comirnaty? Really? SpikeVax is a good name. Vaxzervria is at least decent. 2
bsjkki Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9999595/Long-Covid-symptoms-children-teens-typically-four-12-weeks-analysis-finds.html 1
Bernard Gui Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 20 hours ago, The Nehor said: On a lighter note: Of course I got the vaccine with the stupid name. Comirnaty? Really? SpikeVax is a good name. Vaxzervria is at least decent. Yes I saw that too. I suggested COVzer or PfiVID.
Bernard Gui Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, bsjkki said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9999595/Long-Covid-symptoms-children-teens-typically-four-12-weeks-analysis-finds.html 🙃That odd. For me headaches, fatigue, and trouble sleeping were usually linked to school openings.🙃 Edited September 17, 2021 by Bernard Gui 3
bsjkki Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) FDA panel rejects booster shots in a 16-2 vote. https://apnews.com/article/fda-panel-rejects-widespread-pfizer-booster-shots-1cd1cf6a5c5c02b63f8a7324807a59f1 Edited September 17, 2021 by bsjkki 2
bsjkki Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Just an anecdotal story. My step sister who has had covid and been vaccinated has covid again and has symptoms. They should stay mild but Delta is very contagious. 1
pogi Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bsjkki said: FDA panel rejects booster shots in a 16-2 vote. https://apnews.com/article/fda-panel-rejects-widespread-pfizer-booster-shots-1cd1cf6a5c5c02b63f8a7324807a59f1 Wow. That wasn't even close. Looks like it will more likely be annual boosters instead of semiannual (maybe longer?). That is good news. Edited September 17, 2021 by pogi 1
pogi Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, bsjkki said: FDA panel rejects booster shots in a 16-2 vote. https://apnews.com/article/fda-panel-rejects-widespread-pfizer-booster-shots-1cd1cf6a5c5c02b63f8a7324807a59f1 Some important notes from the article: Quote The FDA itself has yet to make its own determination but typically follows the recommendations of its expert panel. And: Quote In an extraordinary move, both FDA leaders and the panel indicated they were likely to take a second vote Friday afternoon on recommending the booster shots for older Americans and other high-risk groups.
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