ksfisher Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Moderna's vaccine is the most effective, but Pfizer and J&J also protect well, CDC-led study says https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/health/moderna-vaccine-most-effective-cdc-study/index.html 2
bsjkki Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Approves for over 65 and at risk groups. 1
Peacefully Posted September 21, 2021 Posted September 21, 2021 Good news! Looks like Pfizer is effective for kids 5-12 and may be approved soon. https://apnews.com/article/business-science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-202cb6e44b90270ec4d1f19690ed94c5 1
Rain Posted September 21, 2021 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 9:30 AM, The Nehor said: On a lighter note: Of course I got the vaccine with the stupid name. Comirnaty? Really? SpikeVax is a good name. Vaxzervria is at least decent. I occasionally do surveys for companies who are naming their medicines. They give us a bunch of names, tell us what it is for and ask what we think of them. I often wonder just how they are coming up with them. I can't remember any and couldn't share if I could, but I get lots of thoughts like "zombeyfrever for a sleeping pill?" Edited September 21, 2021 by Rain 1
The Nehor Posted September 21, 2021 Posted September 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rain said: I occasionally do surveys for companies who are naming their medicines. They give us a bunch of names, tell us what it for and ask what we thinking of them. I often wonder just how they are coming up with them. I can't remember any and couldn't share if I could, but I get lots of thoughts like "zombeyfrever for a sleeping pill?" I mean they sound vaguely villainous. Comirnaty is Moriarty’s little brother working hard to foil Sherlock Holmes, SpikeVax is a Spider-Man villain, and Vaxzervria is clearly a James Bond femme fatale villiainess. 4
Hamba Tuhan Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 Has anyone linked to this preprint yet? 'Impact of Delta on viral burden and vaccine effectiveness against new SARS-CoV-2 infections in the UK'. Some interesting findings, including: Quote The results from this large community surveillance study show that vaccination with two doses of BNT162b2 [Pfizer] or ChAdOx1 [AstraZeneca] still significantly reduces the risk of new PCR-positive SARS-CoV-2 infections. However, whereas the two vaccines provided similar benefits when Alpha was dominant, benefits from two ChAdOx1 [AstraZeneca] doses are reduced with Delta more than two BNT162b2 [Pfizer] doses, although two ChAdOx1 [AstraZeneca] doses still provide similar protection to that from previous natural infection [emphasis added] ... The dynamics of protection varied over time from second vaccination, and by vaccine type, with initially larger effectiveness with BNT162b2 [Pfizer] than ChAdOx1 [AstraZeneca], which then become more similar by ∼4-5 months due to more rapid waning of effectiveness with BNT162b2 [Pfizer] ... 1
Popular Post Peacefully Posted September 29, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) Hubby and I are sitting in recliners in the ER. He just received the Regeneron infusion because of two positive home tests along with coughing, wheezing and a drop in oxygen. They offered it to me but I’m not feeling sick so I declined. It’s all kind of crazy, but hopefully this keeps him out of the hospital. Edited September 29, 2021 by Peacefully 6
Chum Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Peacefully said: Hubby and I are sitting in recliners in the ER. He just received the Regeneron infusion because of two positive home tests along with coughing, wheezing and a drop in oxygen. They offered it to me but I’m not feeling sick so I declined. It’s all kind of crazy, but hopefully this keeps him out of the hospital. That's awful. I sincerely wish it passes quickly and both of you are fully well. 3
bsjkki Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Peacefully said: Hubby and I are sitting in recliners in the ER. He just received the Regeneron infusion because of two positive home tests along with coughing, wheezing and a drop in oxygen. They offered it to me but I’m not feeling sick so I declined. It’s all kind of crazy, but hopefully this keeps him out of the hospital. I’m so glad he could get the antibodies. I hope you have quick recoveries. 🙏 3
pogi Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, bsjkki said: I think that is a good recommendation, and I think it should apply to all who are under 18 too. 3
Popular Post Peacefully Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Chum said: That's awful. I sincerely wish it passes quickly and both of you are fully well. Thank you! He is feeling better after the infusion. I did a home test and tested negative. All I can say is thank God for the vaccines and the treatments we have now. I shudder to think how many hospitalizations and deaths there would be with the Delta variant if not for these things. The person who took blood last night said that only one percent of the COVID patients that were in that hospital yesterday were vaccinated and there were no vaccinated Covid patients in ICU. Edited September 30, 2021 by Peacefully 5
Popular Post Peacefully Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 30, 2021 7 hours ago, bsjkki said: I’m so glad he could get the antibodies. I hope you have quick recoveries. 🙏 Thank you! We were surprised how easy the treatment was to get but I think mostly it was because of his age -64. If he had waited until his oxygen was too low, they said it wouldn’t have done him any good. It needs to be done early. From webmd: Timing is critical with monoclonal antibodies, according to Petty. The earlier they are given, the more effective they are at treating or preventing COVID-19. They are really most effective within the first 4 to 5 days of symptoms 5
pogi Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Here is some good news. From the makers of the Ivermectin: https://www.ksl.com/article/50253398/merck-says-experimental-pill-cuts-worst-effects-of-covid-19 7.3% of those taking the medicine were hospitalized or died within 30 days, compared to 14.1% taking a placebo. Not near as effective as the vaccine at reducing hospitalization and death, but it is nice to have another potential tool in the belt for Covid. The difficulty with these types of medicines will always be that you have to start taking it within 5 days of symptom onset when symptoms are still mild. It is more common for people to wait and only seek medical treatment when it becomes severe. Then it will be too late. The older and more vulnerable populations will be more likely to seek early treatment though. Those who don't believe that Covid is all that serious (more likely to be unvaccinated) are the ones that are less likely to seek early treatment before it gets severe. That population accounts for a large percentage of who is filling our hospitals, so it is doubtful in my mind that it will have much of an impact in reducing hospitalizations in that population. This is great news for the immunocompromised who may not be as protected from the vaccine and who are more likely to seek early treatment. It will be interesting to see what Ivermectin proponents make of this news. Edited October 1, 2021 by pogi 1
Harry T. Clark Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, pogi said: Here is some good news. From the makers of the Ivermectin: https://www.ksl.com/article/50253398/merck-says-experimental-pill-cuts-worst-effects-of-covid-19 7.3% of those taking the medicine were hospitalized or died within 30 days, compared to 14.1% taking a placebo. Not near as effective as the vaccine at reducing hospitalization and death, but it is nice to have another potential tool in the belt for Covid. The difficulty with these types of medicines will always be that you have to start taking it within 5 days of symptom onset when symptoms are still mild. It is more common for people to wait and only seek medical treatment when it becomes severe. Then it will be too late. The older and more vulnerable populations will be more likely to seek early treatment though. Those who don't believe that Covid is all that serious (more likely to be unvaccinated) are the ones that are less likely to seek early treatment before it gets severe. That population accounts for a large percentage of who is filling our hospitals, so it is doubtful in my mind that it will have much of an impact in reducing hospitalizations in that population. This is great news for the immunocompromised who may not be as protected from the vaccine and who are more likely to seek early treatment. It will be interesting to see what Ivermectin proponents make of this news. If it works, great. Greater still would be if the price point is exciting for Merck's bottom line. Their ivermectin patent ran out and the potential profits from it are negligible, so, better to make an alternative while attacking the cheap medicine, for profit's sake. Even so, if it works, great. Finding a medicine that works, wherever, should be the goal, not a particular agenda. Anyway, what do you think would occur if there were discovered a medicine that was 100% effective at preventing death from covid-19? What would that do to the vaccine proponents and their agenda to vaccinate everyone? It probably would hurt the agenda because fear would no longer be there, right?
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Harry T. Clark said: Finding a medicine that works, wherever, should be the goal I'm sorry that saving lives isn't your stated primary goal. 1
pogi Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Harry T. Clark said: If it works, great. Greater still would be if the price point is exciting for Merck's bottom line. Their ivermectin patent ran out and the potential profits from it are negligible, so, better to make an alternative while attacking the cheap medicine, for profit's sake. Even so, if it works, great. Finding a medicine that works, wherever, should be the goal, not a particular agenda. Anyway, what do you think would occur if there were discovered a medicine that was 100% effective at preventing death from covid-19? What would that do to the vaccine proponents and their agenda to vaccinate everyone? It probably would hurt the agenda because fear would no longer be there, right? If you want to start another thread, I would be happy to address your questions there. This thread is to discuss the science and advancements in medicine. Edited October 1, 2021 by pogi 3
bsjkki Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, pogi said: It will be interesting to see what Ivermectin proponents make of this news. You asked a question. 8 minutes ago, pogi said: 21 minutes ago, Harry T. Clark said: If you want to start another thread, I would be happy to address your questions there. This thread is to discuss the science and advancements in medicine. This seems like you are attacking him for answering your question. This is how I interpreted your response. Was that your intent? 1
bsjkki Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chum said: I'm sorry that saving lives isn't your stated primary goal. Isn’t advocating for finding medicine that works about saving lives? I am confused.
pogi Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, bsjkki said: You asked a question. This seems like you are attacking him for answering your question. This is how I interpreted your response. Was that your intent? It wasn't a question - no question mark. I genuinely am curious to see how that crowd will react. I didn't expect or anticipate this thread to be used for that purpose. I don't want to derail the thread and get this one closed too, I was just musing out-loud. 1
strappinglad Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 This is 6 weeks old and most probably have already seen it, but in case not , this talks about comorbidities and covid. Over 500,000 people used by the CDC. Comorbidities and COVID | The 9 Worst Health Risks - YouTube 1
bsjkki Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, pogi said: It wasn't a question - no question mark. I genuinely am curious to see how that crowd will react. I didn't expect or anticipate this thread to be used for that purpose. I don't want to derail the thread and get this one closed too, I was just musing out-loud. It came across like an invitation to address the topic. So, maybe don’t muse about things you don’t want discussed. 😏
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, bsjkki said: Isn’t advocating for finding medicine that works about saving lives? I am confused. It's wise to take into account his history of advancing anti-vax and other deathcult talking points. If he has clearly renounced his earlier positions, we should certainly take that into account. Edited October 1, 2021 by Chum
bsjkki Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, strappinglad said: This is 6 weeks old and most probably have already seen it, but in case not , this talks about comorbidities and covid. Over 500,000 people used by the CDC. Comorbidities and COVID | The 9 Worst Health Risks - YouTube Very informative. Thanks!
Harry T. Clark Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, pogi said: If you want to start another thread, I would be happy to address your questions there. This thread is to discuss the science and advancements in medicine. It directly goes to the advances in medicine and how they might be hindered by profit motives.
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