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Harry T. Clark

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  1. If the test works like you say, then why change it? How hard is it to take two samples and use the current pcr test and a separate flu test? Supposedly that is what was going on last year at this time, according to Pogi. Yet, there is a need for a change, for some reason. Also, there were a lot of false positives from the current pcr test that a combined covid/flu test will probably remedy. I think this is the reason why there is a change. The pcr test was never meant to tell whether or not one was sick with covid, only if one had parts of the virus in their system. It could be dead virus or live virus. The test didn't differentiate between the two. So, a positive test didn't necessarily mean that one was going to get sick. On another note, you seem to get upset if someone pushes back on the vaccine narrative. Why? Supposedly you are protected if you got the vaccine and your booster will be available soon to protect you even more. The vaccines don't stop the spread of the disease. They weren't made to do so. So, the unvaccinated don't pose a threat to you. Yet, you seem upset when someone pushes back on the narrative, supposedly in the name of fighting vaccine hesitancy? What does it matter? Israel has the highest vaccine compliance rate and is suffering from the Delta. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html At least there is this: https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/26/large-israeli-study-natural-immunity-provides-13-times-more-protection-against-delta-than-pfizers-vaccine-does-n411863
  2. Where have they been debunked? Will you show me and walk me through the supposed debunking or just hide like you accuse me of doing? Here is an article that supposedly debunks the claims that the covid test cannot differentiate between covid and the flu. https://khn.org/news/article/fact-check-cdc-pcr-covid-test-distinguishes-from-flu-eua-request-withdrawal/ First, let's look at the announcement from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html In the lab alert, it says: What can we surmise from the above statement? (1) the prior test didn't detect or differentiate between sars-cov-2 and influenza viruses. I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. Supposedly the pcr test was only meant to detect covid, but; (2) The testing change was needed because we need to see whether a patient presenting with symptoms that are common with flu and covid has flu or covid. Also, perhaps, more importantly, the patient could have had both and the current testing regimen would only show covid (3) The implication is that some who tested positive with covid actually had the flu. The flu disappeared last year and was it because of covid crowding out the flu or was it because of the poor pcr test? Obviously a better testing regimen is needed. Finally, (4) false positives could have been the flu and therefore a misdiagnosis could have happened. False positives are a problem, especially when, as is common, testing uses more than 35 cycles. This is the heart of the matter. In the supposed debunking article cited above, the author admits that there was a need for a change in order to detect flu: Then the guy inexplicably claims that He attempts to prove his point by saying that the pcr test was only designed to detect sars-cov-2. Fair enough, but, it doesn't touch on the false positive problem, the real reason for the change. Flu and covid have similar symptoms and an accurate test is needed to be able to tell the difference because symptoms won't give the answer. This leads to the following: a new test shouldn't be necessary if it were 100% reliable. If a positive test comes back, then it is certainly sars-cov-2. A negative test, by implication would mean it's something else, not covid, most likely the flu, as the symptoms are close to the same.
  3. The chances of death from this are well below 1% yet we have all these lockdowns, mask mandates even though there is a lot of science contrary to them. I think it's been exaggerated. The media focuses on the positive test numbers but doesn't let us know how many are actually sick, really sick, etc. The Atlantic article uncovered how hospital statistics also don't let us know how many are merely mildly affected and how many are more so. Also, the testing results in a lot of false positives. Yet, that is never discussed and/or branded as fake news. The vaccines aren't working as well as advertised and the adverse affects aren't allowed to be discussed. There isn't a differentiation between someone who died from covid and someone who died from other factors but had covid too. Why the exaggeration? Then, there is this push, like with your question above about narrative, to group any and all questioners as kooks to be despised. How about we look at what is reality instead of branding differing views from the vaccine narrative as fake news. It's been too political and the democrats are just as responsible like the republicans have been. Bottom line, the vaccines don't prevent the spread of this disease. Natural immunity seems to be better. Masks don't work as well as advertised and the chances for those who don't have comorbidities, obesity, are not elderly, from dying from this is minuscule. So, let the people decide what they want to do. Stop with the unnecessary restrictions.
  4. Here is what was said by the CDC from the alert I cited: The test is changing. Why? It would obviously be better to have a test that could differentiate between Sars and the Flu. That is a no brainer. However, the one used currently cannot. It never could. This is from the cdc guidlines on administration of the commonly and currently used test, pg. 37, last bullet point, under the "Limitations" heading: https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download This isn't fake news or misinformation. The current test simply cannot rule out disases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens, like the flu. So, is it a big leap to think that perhaps there were some false positives over time that were actually the flu? People lie. Corporation heads lie. The media lies. Commenters on blog posts lie. Companies hire media influencers to attack counternarratives on social media. Sometimes bots are used. Is it possible that some government officials lie? I'm sure you will agree that Trump was certainly capable of lying and probably did a bunch. Perhaps there are those in the CDC, currently, and other agencies that are lying on behalf of Pharma? Is that possible or no? I think the goal should be to get at the truth, given how untrustworthy people are, given how money can corrupt scientists and government officials alike. The trick is to take a look at the information presented and learn how statements can be made in such a way as to mislead. In this case, there certainly is a change in the test that couldn't eliminate the possibility that a positive test came from something other than sars-cov-2. It says so in the very protocol instructions that the CDC put out.
  5. Hospital data can be misleading as the Atlantic admitted and those hospitalized could have minor covid symptoms while being positive and the deaths could be from other conditions. We need more data to be able to say accurately what the cause of death was. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/ Israel shows that it is better to have been exposed and recovered than getting the vaccine: https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/ The CDC changed the way the vaccinated are tested, lowering the test to 28 cycles or less, while keeping the higher test for the unvaccinated. Why did it do this? Probably to skew the numbers away from how the vaccines are performing while continuing to populate the false positives among the unvaccinated. I wonder if this is what is affecting the Canadian numbers? https://newsrescue.com/cdc-quietly-deletes-guidance-virally-criticized-as-double-standard-for-reporting-breakthrough-cases/ Maybe some of these Canadian cases are really the flu as the PCR test cannot distinguish between covid and the flu? The cdc article below discussed how the PCR test will no longer be used after the end of the year because it cannot distinguish between covid and the flu. Perhaps this is where the missing flu cases went? https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html Then there is this zoom call with hospital administrators at a N. Carolina hospital plotting to hype the numbers to scare people into getting the vaccine: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2021/09/13/watch-video-shows-hospital-staff-plotting-to-scare-the-public-on-covid-19-n1478281 https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/icu-nurse-drops-bomb-youre-being-lied-to/
  6. Perhaps it's the thread's dramatic start combined with the censorship request that made commenters lose steam?
  7. Which is it? Projecting again? Anyone who disagrees with vaccine worship is branded a terrorist, eh? Not everyone is like your hillbilly examples from Mississippi regarding ivermectin (but exaggerating for effect is part of the noble lie, right). There are a lot of doctors around the world who are researching ivermectin. https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/ By the way, I am vaccinated. My family is vaccinated. My 12 year old just got her meningitis and tetanus shots the other day. But I question this vaccine because it was rushed to market and the world over-exaggerated this. We don't know if covid or the flu caused a lot of the deaths last year as the PCR test can't differentiate between the two and the flu mysteriously disappeared. Then the CDC recently admitted that the PCR test isn't a good test precisely because it cannot differentiate between the flu and covid. https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html Incidentally, what do you make of Australia and New Zealand going full lock down due to a small number of cases? Is that an over-reaction? Seems to be.
  8. Take a look again and maybe listen to the interview with Dr. Walensky. She mentions your points. Also take a look at the quote in my post where Dr. Walensky claims the vaccines are effective. The site mentions what you say it doesn't. Nice try though.
  9. We should continue to look to other treatments and cures and not put all of our eggs in a vaccine basket. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33578014/
  10. Talk to CDC director Dr. Walensky about this. She has a different opinion. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#! Here is what she says in the article:
  11. Maybe you should take a step back and reflect on this? You know, faith, hope, charity and love .... I hope you really don't want people to die simply because they go against your black and white narrative.
  12. Please show me where I have given false information. I have given information from doctors and scientists that disagree with the media/pharmaceutical narrative that vaccines are the only solution. That simply isn't true. The alternatives have been researched and studied just as long as the vaccines have, if not more. We are gearing up for booster shots because the first two haven't worked and might have been instrumental in causing the virus to mutate. Yet, due to hysteria of seeing a thankfully small part of the population suffer from this illness, and perhaps a monetary incentive, alternatives are immediately branded as "false" and then cheerleaders like you enter and use unreasonable language in an attempt to stifle needed debate. The science is never settled and if you think it is, you should rethink your position. I bet the supposed reckless pastor you derided is a Dunn like story, invented or exaggerated to support your "noble lie." You won't give the site because it will be easily picked apart and your exaggerated story will be exposed.
  13. Why are you so worried whether or not an unvaccinated person gets vaccinated or not? The vaccine doesn't stop the spread, only lessens symptoms, supposedly. To vaccinate or not won't have any effect on you or anyone else, as you, a vaccinated person, could just as easily spread the disease as anyone. I already had covid, my family had it, and so did my elderly parents. According to the articles included herein, we should have pretty good immunity. Our immune systems still work and now these systems have adapted to covid and the variants. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34067349/ https://insight.jci.org/articles/view/146316 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6556/eabh1766?utm_campaign=SciMag&utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Twitter https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(21)00203-6/fulltext
  14. Why not? Shouldn't we put a spotlight on the bad behavior? If this family is as you say, then showing their bad example would possibly help others to avoid their mistakes. Perhaps some that view this site don't even realize that their similar behavior is so risky and uncouth. Showing the bad example could perhaps be a teaching moment for these lost right-wingers.
  15. Could you provide a link to the YouTube channel?
  16. I don't think motivation has anything to do with whether or not the church was/is in violation with tax law or whether or not the civil rico claim has legs. Angry ex-spouses sometimes go to the IRS or FBI and blow the whistle so to speak on the nefarious acts of their former spouse. It doesn't make it false just because someone is angry or has an ax to grind. However in this case, there is some smoke and the IRS supposedly looked into the charitable affiliation issue. EPA contributed to the Mall and bailed out Beneficial Life. All the more reason to have the church make their finances public to the members. This can be done on a yearly basis. Berkshire Hathaway has done fine disclosing its finances and so have other corporations.
  17. The above statement from David A. Nielson looks troubling and it might force the church to seek a settlement as it looks like tithing was definitely used to fund commercial projects (the mall and the beneficial life bail-out). Who knows if tithing can be traced to other commercial ventures such as the recent purchases of farm land or commercial buildings? I really don't see anything wrong with it though. Throughout church history, church funds were used for commercial enterprises and those church funds originated with the widow's mite.
  18. Here is the paper: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/12/04/2020.12.04.409144.full.pdf Also, here is a link to the original article prior to the uproar. The sentence about the supposed different spike protein was added after the fact and without any support: http://web.archive.org/web/20210430171112/https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/ The paper shows that there is a problem with the spike protein that the vaccines cause cells to make. Given all the adverse reactions to the vaccine, given that they are circulatory in nature, it seems like the caveat is problematic.
  19. You're a real piece of work. I wonder what life would be like for you if you couldn't hide behind name-calling and moderators here. This last bit is because you can't respond to being called out and are hoping for a reaction that will allow your nannies to take action in your favor. You probably pm'ed them already crying to them. Take a look at "projection" and what it means in the psychology arena. Poster removed
  20. I know you want to find a reason to ban me from this thread. You are inventing something that did not happen. Merely asking if someone works for the Pharma industry doesn't imply that they support risking people's lives, unless you think that this is what Pharma does. However, before you ban me, please look at what Mr. Nehor has said about me. He repeatedly implied that I support death because I question his narrative and yours. Obviously that is fine with you. However, this is simply projecting on your part. Now you can ban me as you probably don't want to hear anything other than what your echo chamber delivers.
  21. How do we define what is a quack? Is it just someone who disagrees with the preferred narrative? It cannot be just that. Is it someone who uses "snake oil" as a cure when obviously "snake oil" doesn't cure anything? Yes. However, how do we define someone like Dr. Malone, a PhD with a medical degree, a person who worked at the prestigious Salk Institute. Yes, he pushes back on the narrative so he is a quack? Don't we as a society want smart people disagreeing with the narrative so that science progresses? Anyway, perhaps this has something to do with it? https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/ It turns out that the spike protein itself damages cells and causes disease. Yet, the mRNA vaccines cause cells to produce the spike protein in abundance. Is this a nothing burger or is there more to this as in did we make a mistake in having the spike protein be the basis of the vaccines? Should we have gone the normal route and used attenuated virus vaccines given how exposure to sars-cov-2 creates long lasting immunity?
  22. I haven't given up on talking about the vaccine. There can't be more than one topic? Also, the change in testing methods directly affects the vaccine push as perhaps the severity of the crisis was exaggerated that led us to pushing a vaccine that doesn't stop transmission and only lessens symptoms and causes deaths. However, I get why you wouldn't want to discuss it. Weren't you a contact tracer or was that Nurse Pogi? Also, just answer yes or no to the questions regarding your employment. Do you work for the Pharma industry? Do you receive income from any person or entity that is related in any manner to the Pharma industry or receives anything of value from the Pharma industry? I ask this because you seem too well versed in the narrative that big Pharma is pushing and everyone here deserves to know if you are compromised or if you just are a volunteer for your team.
  23. 1. Every suit had no merit and the claims about vaccine side-effects were all false? How do you know that? Come on, you work for Pharma directly or get your pay from someone related to them. 2. You really don't think that Pfizer, et al didn't lobby the Trump Admin to make the declaration under the Prep Act? https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/04/15/2020-08040/amendment-to-declaration-under-the-public-readiness-and-emergency-preparedness-act-for-medical 3. Incidentally, what to do you make of the PCR test change? It seems the PCR test couldn't distinguish between Sars-Cov-2 and the Flu. https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html I love this quote from the Lab Alert: "CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season." So, does this mean that the sars-cov-2 numbers last year were exaggerated and that the flu never left last year as claimed? I wonder how many flu cases were mislabeled? How many deaths were really flu deaths?
  24. Nevermind that yours is anecdotal. Go Giants!
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