Any Violence in Your Neck of the Woods?

[LoudmouthMormon]

Between COVID and the social unrest, the news seems to be a never-ending slew of bad news, with each new story more horrible than the last.  They tell me such media barrages is stressful, and often paints a far worse picture than reality dictates.  I'd like to get a more realistic snapshot of what's actually happening in people's neighborhoods and cities.  

So, how is the local news in your areas?  Good or bad.

My county in Colorado has fairly low infection and one of the lower death rates in the state.  I'm planning on sending two daughters to real live school at the end of August, one to High School, one to our local community college.  Some protesting in Colorado Springs (15 miles to my South), but there hasn't been any protests turning into riots since March.

[Kenngo1969]

It's very likely that you know, already, of the two major incidents that have spawned protests in my neck of the woods.  In one, a putative protester shot a motorist who was trying to negotiate his vehicle through an intersection when protesters in the street prevented him from doing so, and the other involves the protests related to the shooting by Salt Lake City Police of Bernardo Palacios-Carbajal who had just committed two armed robberies and who stopped three times to retrieve his weapon after dropping it as police pursued him.  At least two people were arrested in connection with the motorist shooting in Provo.  Putative "protests" resulted in, I believe, $200,000 in damage to the Salt Lake City District Attorney's Office.  (I'm sure there was other damage, but I don't have a dollar figure.)  I haven't heard or read anything since a week or so ago regarding either incident.

Salt Lake City Police responded to a fight-in-progress call in the parking lot of a local grocery store and arrived to find one of the combatants wielding a knife that, apparently, he refused to relinquish, which resulted in an officer shooting and killing him.  No word on whether any protests ensued.  (I doubt it; I have my suspicions as to why, but ...)

That's all I got.  

 

Edited July 26, 2020 by Kenngo1969

[Meadowchik]

Our family lives split between two countries and we were recently able to come home to Alsace. In the UK, our neighborhood is quiet and friendly. In French Alsace, at our recent visit to an outdoor restaurant, the whole dining room started talking together about the transition from German to French. They even had bilingual newspapers until the 80s. One diner insisted on showing off his classic collector car in the parking lot, a 1952 Cadillac. That's the vibes where I live.

[Robert F. Smith]

5 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Between COVID and the social unrest, the news seems to be a never-ending slew of bad news, with each new story more horrible than the last.  They tell me such media barrages is stressful, and often paints a far worse picture than reality dictates.  I'd like to get a more realistic snapshot of what's actually happening in people's neighborhoods and cities.  

So, how is the local news in your areas?  Good or bad.

My county in Colorado has fairly low infection and one of the lower death rates in the state.  I'm planning on sending two daughters to real live school at the end of August, one to High School, one to our local community college.  Some protesting in Colorado Springs (15 miles to my South), but there hasn't been any protests turning into riots since March.

Things have been pretty violent in Aurora, Colorado:

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/06/28/aurora-violence-police-chief/

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/elijah-mcclain-rally-turns-violent-as-protesters-set-fire-to-aurora-municipal-court-building  (Elijah McClain rally turns violent as protesters set fire to Aurora municipal court building, Car drives through crowd, protester shot)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/26/car-drives-through-black-lives-matter-protest-in-aurora-colorado  (Car drives through Black Lives Matter protest in Aurora, Colorado)

[Storm Rider]

I am in Leesburg, VA - about 28 miles from where I live is D.C. Once the talk of protests began in D.C., we stayed away from the city. I thought about visiting the National Gallery of Art; they are sponsoring Degas at the Opera; it recently opened again. Things seem pretty calm at present. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Storm Rider

[JamesBYoung]

Small protests have been held in St. George with no threat of violence by anyone.

We do have examples of thoughtless independence, but the mask wearing has been steadily increasing.

Some are unhappy about it.  When Smith's, Albertson's, and Harmons finally mandate that customers must wear masks to be served, there will some incidents of unhappiness.

[Duncan]

none whatsoever

[Raingirl]

I work in downtown Portland, Oregon. ‘Nuff said. 

[strappinglad]

30 minutes ago, Duncan said:

none whatsoever

Well that is unusual for your city, no ??

[The Nehor]

My area is a COVID hotspot is growing cases and deaths. Protests, some violence. Police just revised their “use of force” standards in the city. Governor is frustrated that local politicians pressured him for mandatory mask wearing And when they got it they did not even wear masks in accordance with the new rule. A lot of idiocy basically. So pretty normal except for the death toll.

[Duncan]

5 minutes ago, strappinglad said:

Well that is unusual for your city, no ??

ah, we had a jump in homicides and violent crime last year but nothing related to covid, BLM or the police or anything like that

[3DOP]

7 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Between COVID and the social unrest, the news seems to be a never-ending slew of bad news, with each new story more horrible than the last.  They tell me such media barrages is stressful, and often paints a far worse picture than reality dictates.  I'd like to get a more realistic snapshot of what's actually happening in people's neighborhoods and cities.  

So, how is the local news in your areas?  Good or bad.

My county in Colorado has fairly low infection and one of the lower death rates in the state.  I'm planning on sending two daughters to real live school at the end of August, one to High School, one to our local community college.  Some protesting in Colorado Springs (15 miles to my South), but there hasn't been any protests turning into riots since March.

I have moved from a place of rioting and masking to a place of non-rioting and non-masking...for now. It is probably inevitable though. Where can one continue to flee? It feels like Nevil Shute's On the Beach.

1 hour ago, Raingirl said:

I work in downtown Portland, Oregon. ‘Nuff said. 

 Raingirl. Hi.

I remember that you were close by. I am far away now, not driving a truck anymore. I used to take care of Good Sam, Emanuel, the VA, and OHSU up on the hill when everybody was asleep. Prov Portland out on Glisan, looming large on I-84. Adventist out east on the other side of the 205. Portland was once described by a priest I admired as a "beautiful lady on the river". Who could argue, while Mt. Hood cast her chilly year round smile from a mere fifty air miles away? I was born across that river 64 years ago. I am afraid Portland has grown old, tired, ugly, and...demented. She wanted to be singular, proud of being WEIRD. She was jealous of her big sister Seattle. Wanted notoriety. She has received her reward. A couple of years ago I grew exasperated with the filthy homeless camps the city decided to hold up in honour as a testament to the supposed injustice of American society. She may reform, but at my age, I shall never see Portland again, healthy, lovely, a "beautiful lady on the river".

For now, so long as the tide holds back, I'll take the humidity, mosquitoes, bugs, and generally brown look of the Midwest, with human faces, rather than a land of beauty and comfort with masks on those who are made in the image of God.

We've got some big tomatoes already!. Tasty of course. It ain't all bad! Our good God left traces of His beauty everywhere, in all that He made, but my heart will always be where you now live, Raingirl. 

 

Edited July 26, 2020 by 3DOP

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, Duncan said:

none whatsoever

Be the change you want to see in the world! Want to borrow my crossbow?

[mfbukowski]

In LA?

Nothing bad ever happens here.  We're as calm as a raft trip down the Niagara river, where I usta live.

😱

PS: I tried to go to a pistol range on a Wednesday morning.  There was an hour wait and a crowd trying to get in.

🤐

Edited July 27, 2020 by mfbukowski

[Kenngo1969]

2 hours ago, Raingirl said:

I work in downtown Portland, Oregon. ‘Nuff said. 

No kidding!

Please stay safe!

[mfbukowski]

46 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

Be the change you want to see in the world! Want to borrow my crossbow?

Got an extra? 

 

[The Nehor]

36 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Got an extra? 

 

Always. I am not going to be the next Nephi. Gotta have two.

[Islander]

I work in Denver but live north, closer to the WY border. In Denver and abouts is pretty crazy, especially at night. North is quiet. The gunshop/range owner locally is a friend and he just received a shipment of 500K rounds of ammunition on Wed. I got to buy 2000 rounds for my handguns on Friday. It is ALL gone. I called him yesterday trying to buy some more rifle ammo and he texted me back with "gone Winchester" (out of ammo).  

[Duncan]

1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

Be the change you want to see in the world! Want to borrow my crossbow?

💘

[Raingirl]

3 hours ago, 3DOP said:

I have moved from a place of rioting and masking to a place of non-rioting and non-masking...for now. It is probably inevitable though. Where can one continue to flee? It feels like Nevil Shute's On the Beach.

 Raingirl. Hi.

I remember that you were close by. I am far away now, not driving a truck anymore. I used to take care of Good Sam, Emanuel, the VA, and OHSU up on the hill when everybody was asleep. Prov Portland out on Glisan, looming large on I-84. Adventist out east on the other side of the 205. Portland was once described by a priest I admired as a "beautiful lady on the river". Who could argue, while Mt. Hood cast her chilly year round smile from a mere fifty air miles away? I was born across that river 64 years ago. I am afraid Portland has grown old, tired, ugly, and...demented. She wanted to be singular, proud of being WEIRD. She was jealous of her big sister Seattle. Wanted notoriety. She has received her reward. A couple of years ago I grew exasperated with the filthy homeless camps the city decided to hold up in honour as a testament to the supposed injustice of American society. She may reform, but at my age, I shall never see Portland again, healthy, lovely, a "beautiful lady on the river".

For now, so long as the tide holds back, I'll take the humidity, mosquitoes, bugs, and generally brown look of the Midwest, with human faces, rather than a land of beauty and comfort with masks on those who are made in the image of God.

We've got some big tomatoes already!. Tasty of course. It ain't all bad! Our good God left traces of His beauty everywhere, in all that He made, but my heart will always be where you now live, Raingirl. 

 

Demented is an apt description of Portland these days.  It makes me long for the Midwest where I grew up. 

The media tries to convince people that it’s not that bad in Portland. It is that bad.

Businesses that managed to hang in there during the Covid shutdown are now closed due to the riots. With no end in sight.

Those of us who have employers still functioning, continue to work from home as downtown is not safe. We’re repairing damage on at least a weekly basis. 

I’ve spent a fair amount of time in several of those hospitals. I’m currently enrolled in an MS treatment study at the VA, but in-person appointments are still banned due to Covid. 

I have a black thumb but I would love to give gardening a shot somewhere in small-town Midwest. I am more than ready to give up riots, quarantine, and loneliness for something else. 

[Raingirl]

2 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said:

No kidding!

Please stay safe!

I am fortunate to have a job that can be done from home. I’ve ceased even the occasional day downtown. 

A friend from church has a brother-in-law who is a Portland police officer. He has some real horror stories to tell. 

[Maidservant]

Albuquerque is pretty chill, at least in my exact neighborhood, as far as 2020 issues. In earlier months there were some peaceful protests, a bit of property damage, but nothing ongoing or at least not that I know of, since I don't listen to news, so it would have to get big for me to hear of it (although ABQ can be pretty small town ish). I think the worse thing I heard was one person getting shot over a "statue" altercation, you know what I mean (statue of the colonial Duke), I'm not even sure if they died from that.

Of course, in the apartment complex where I live, cops are here multiple times a week for people's personal drama, so there's that. Today someone got maced and someone from the third floor threatening down to the parking lot and so that was fun.

[Scott Lloyd]

8 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said:

It's very likely that you know, already, of the two major incidents that have spawned protests in my neck of the woods.  In one, a putative protester shot a motorist who was trying to negotiate his vehicle through an intersection when protesters in the street prevented him from doing so, and the other involves the protests related to the shooting by Salt Lake City Police of Bernardo Palacios-Carbajal who had just committed two armed robberies and who stopped three times to retrieve his weapon after dropping it as police pursued him.  At least two people were arrested in connection with the motorist shooting in Provo.  Putative "protests" resulted in, I believe, $200,000 in damage to the Salt Lake City District Attorney's Office.  (I'm sure there was other damage, but I don't have a dollar figure.)  I haven't heard or read anything since a week or so ago regarding either incident.

Salt Lake City Police responded to a fight-in-progress call in the parking lot of a local grocery store and arrived to find one of the combatants wielding a knife that, apparently, he refused to relinquish, which resulted in an officer shooting and killing him.  No word on whether any protests ensued.  (I doubt it; I have my suspicions as to why, but ...)

That's all I got.  

 

You didn’t mention the riot early on in which an SLPD car was overturned and set on fire. Last I heard, nine arrests had been made in that and related incidents. 
 

All in all, I think police have responded effectively, which has discouraged further violence. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Scott Lloyd

[Storm Rider]

17 hours ago, Raingirl said:

I am fortunate to have a job that can be done from home. I’ve ceased even the occasional day downtown. 

A friend from church has a brother-in-law who is a Portland police officer. He has some real horror stories to tell. 

We lived in the Seattle area for a long time; raised our children there and loved it. We have a lot of family that live over near the Olympics and would spend a lot of time with them. Living now on the East coast....I long to return to the NW.  Have no desire for Bellevue or Seattle, but the Olympics beckon me to return.  However, as long as our grandchildren are small, we feel compelled to live near them so that we can see them each week.  

The communists and the socialists have taken over Seattle and Portland. Would not give a plug nickel for either one of those cities even though I loved the beautiful August sunny days.  Both cities used to be wonderful places to live. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Storm Rider

[Duncan]

10 hours ago, Storm Rider said:

We lived in the Seattle area for a long time; raised our children there and loved it. We have a lot of family that live over near the Olympics and would spend a lot of time with them. Living now on the East coast....I long to return to the NW.  Have no desire for Bellevue or Seattle, but the Olympics beckon me to return.  However, as long as our grandchildren are small, we feel compelled to live near them so that we can see them each week.  

The communists and the socialists have taken over Seattle and Portland. Would not give a plug nickel for either one on one of those beautiful August sunny days.  Both cities used to be wonderful places to live. 

To say nothing about the brown shirts and vans, haven't we seen this before in history?

Edited July 27, 2020 by Duncan