In search of a map of released time seminary classes available on the east coast, in particular, Florida

[nuclearfuels]

In search of a map of released time seminary classes available on the east coast, in particular, Florida

Hook a brother up?

[bluebell]

21 minutes ago, nuclearfuels said:

In search of a map of released time seminary classes available on the east coast, in particular, Florida

Hook a brother up?

I don't think those exist.  As far as I am aware, the information is only locally available for members.  If you were curious about a specific school you might be able to see if it's an option as an elective, but I don't know that most schools post that information on their websites either.

[Calm]

42 minutes ago, nuclearfuels said:

In search of a map of released time seminary classes available on the east coast, in particular, Florida

Hook a brother up?

Apparently Florida requires released time for religion classes by law if parents request it, so all school districts likely have the option, it would just be if the Church had enough members to justify paying for a teacher…though I guess they could do volunteers and maybe hold it in a home close to the school.

https://releasedtime.org/florida

[Calm]

I think this is likely your best resource:

https://si-help.churchofjesuschrist.org/hc/en-us

Haven’t explored it because I need to sign in for full access.

There is a mySeminary app that may work for you as well.

Edited April 10 by Calm

[Chum]

11 hours ago, nuclearfuels said:

In search of a map of released time seminary classes available on the east coast, in particular, Florida

My 5 did seminary in W.Cent FL.  It's only ever been held before the earliest HS bell. 
This site is the first place I've come across the notion of released time. I'd be surprised to see a stake president here choose that option. My perception is that they don't want Church and school interfering with each other. 

[bluebell]

54 minutes ago, Chum said:

My 5 did seminary in W.Cent FL.  It's only ever been held before the earliest HS bell. 
This site is the first place I've come across the notion of released time. I'd be surprised to see a stake president here choose that option. My perception is that they don't want Church and school interfering with each other. 

Kids with release time take seminary as one of their electives, so I'm not sure how it would interfere with school.  Normally the option only exists if there is a church owned building (maybe a member's house would also be allowed, I'm not sure since typically it's taught by a Church educational system teacher), close enough to the school that the kids could walk there in a couple of minutes. 

So if that doesn't exist I don't think a stake president could choose that option, even if they wanted to.

[Chum]

23 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Kids with release time take seminary as one of their electives, so I'm not sure how it would interfere with school. 

As a parent, I would would be unhappy with redirecting one of my kids' few electives toward seminary. Especially with the curriculum tightly shaped for the minority going on to a 4 year degree. 
Past that, and I'm extrapolating here: Our stakes' desire is that students receive a full measure of Church and education. For this, seminary would always be appended onto school time.

A new wrinkle in this is that starting next year, FL high schools aren't allowed to start before 8:30am. I am astounded to see a law (any law) that benefits our students in a substantive way.

36 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Normally the option only exists if there is a church owned building (maybe a member's house would also be allowed, I'm not sure since typically it's taught by a Church educational system teacher), close enough to the school that the kids could walk there in a couple of minutes. 

Seminary is typically held in the ward building. The one exception, there was a handful of students and the ward building was outside ward boundaries. Seminary was held in the teachers home.
Our seminary sizes range from 3 to maybe 20 students. Few to no members live within walking distance of the ward building. The most distant members will drive about 45 minutes.

[webbles]

41 minutes ago, Chum said:

As a parent, I would would be unhappy with redirecting one of my kids' few electives toward seminary. Especially with the curriculum tightly shaped for the minority going on to a 4 year degree. 
Past that, and I'm extrapolating here: Our stakes' desire is that students receive a full measure of Church and education. For this, seminary would always be appended onto school time.

A new wrinkle in this is that starting next year, FL high schools aren't allowed to start before 8:30am. I am astounded to see a law (any law) that benefits our students in a substantive way.

I'm pretty certain that if the church had a released time program in the area, they also continue to have early morning seminary available for students that don't want to give up electives.  Two of my kids did that one year because they needed some specific classes.  I, on the other hand, did released time my entire High School career because I needed some zero hour classes that were only available then.

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A new wrinkle in this is that starting next year, FL high schools aren't allowed to start before 8:30am. I am astounded to see a law (any law) that benefits our students in a substantive way.

What do you mean by the bolded?  The law in FL that mandates that released time available has nothing to do with the church.  There are some big non-denominational released time programs in the US that have worked on getting laws like this passed in most states so that kids can have religious teaching alongside secular.  Some of these released time programs actually give school credit (such as a history credit for Old Testamant or English credit for New Testamant).  The church's seminary doesn't because its lessons are tied to the church doctrine and aren't generic.

[Calm]

35 minutes ago, webbles said:

 

What do you mean by the bolded? 

He is referring to the law that schools can’t have zero hour classes or even start regularly till 8:30…which is much better for teens because of their natural sleep cycles have them falling asleep later than they used to but still needing as many hours.  Our school systems have been long set up to produce sleep deprived adolescents, not the best state for absorbing new concepts or learning new skills.  A very bad habit to get into as that makes being tired seem normal and imo makes it more likely they will do other things that deprive them of more sleep because of lack of self awareness of what fully rested feels like and how much better that can be.

Edited April 10 by Calm

[Chum]

43 minutes ago, webbles said:

I'm pretty certain that if the church had a released time program in the area, they also continue to have early morning seminary available for students that don't want to give up electives.

Our seminary numbers merit just one option. I've seen seminary that need 2 or 3 wards to field enough students. 

[bluebell]

53 minutes ago, Chum said:

Our seminary numbers merit just one option. I've seen seminary that need 2 or 3 wards to field enough students. 

There’s always online as well, but that doesn’t sound like much fun to me

[rpn]

I don't know of any released time seminary outside of UT, AZ and parts of ID.

There are FL stakes that have remote seminary after school, however.   It is pretty hard to get to join those, rather than inperson early morning offering too.   And I know of noone doing out of stake seminary joining.

 

Edited April 11 by rpn

[ZealouslyStriving]

3 hours ago, rpn said:

I don't know of any released time seminary outside of UT, AZ and parts of ID.

There are FL stakes that have remote seminary after school, however.   It is pretty hard to get to join those, rather than inperson early morning offering too.   And I know of noone doing out of stake seminary joining.

 

When I was in HS 30+ years ago in Washington State, schools in the "big city" of Vancouver (not Canada) had release time. I was just a country bumpkin, so I got to go at 5:30 am.

[bluebell]

4 hours ago, rpn said:

I don't know of any released time seminary outside of UT, AZ and parts of ID.

There are FL stakes that have remote seminary after school, however.   It is pretty hard to get to join those, rather than inperson early morning offering too.   And I know of noone doing out of stake seminary joining.

 

At least one town in Wyoming has release time. 

[Ragerunner]

I don’t believe there are any ‘release time’ seminaries in Florida. Before school, after school or virtual are the only options. 

[Calm]

Hopefully nuclear will come back and let us know what the need is.  Maybe they or loved one is moving?