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At what point in gestation do you think we mortals get the opportunity to raise children we've lost (stillborn, miscarriages, etc.)? * I understand the opinions provided do not constitute doctrine and I'm 100% fine with that. * I also understand that in the Millenium we may have the opportunity to bear additional children - making somewhat moot or null my main question - but there's something about mortality that's likely unique in the eternal scheme of things. Context: A family member shared that lefties are often twins. We have a leftie in our family. Did he/she have a twin before being born / fully gestating? Generally, left-handedness is found in 10.6% of the overall population.[1] Some studies have reported that left-handedness is more common in twins than in singletons, occurring in 21% of people who are twins.[2]
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This is my understanding of the verses in question. I could be wrong/limited/misinterpreting them though. Christ is the Savior for all inhabitants of everything He created via the priesthood. I dont understand why that phase with jurisdictional limits, priesthood, resurrection, Atonement would be any different for the Father. Couldn't the Father have followed His Father's / His Council's assignment / calling, created a universe, provided a means of redemption for the inhabitants, etc.? I dont' see how these diminsh anything the Savior did.
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Matthew 11:27; John 5:19, 30; John 8:18–28 Is the Savior teaching here: 1. "As man is now, God once was. As God is now, man may become." - God was once a man on an earth and held the same calling (Savior, Messiah) that Jesus holds for those within His jurisdiction? 2. Jesus is ministering the way His Father did 3. The Father is personally teaching the Savior what to do, how to do it, etc. It is the grand truth that in all that Jesus came to say and do, including and especially in His atoning suffering and sacrifice, He was showing us who and what God our Eternal Father is like, how completely devoted He is to His children in every age and nation. In word and in deed Jesus was trying to reveal and make personal to us the true nature of His Father, our Father in Heaven. (Jeffrey R. Holland, “The Grandeur of God,” Ensign or Liahona, Nov. 2003, 70)
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Redefining Marriage to it's Biblical Definition
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Always came away from those chapters with the same impression -
Premortal and postmortal Sacrament Ordinance?
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Thank you, Calm. I don't get why Nehor shared it in the first place. Was it shared implying my analogy / presumption of such ordinances was on equally shaky ground as Saul's experience? -
Premortal and postmortal Sacrament Ordinance?
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I'm sorry. I don't get it. -
Premortal and postmortal Sacrament Ordinance?
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1. He gave the Sacrament to His Disciples, the Nephites, and likely the Lost Tribes. Messiah and Christ mean Anointed One, suggesting He was anointed / called by God the Father / Elohim to serve as the Savior. We likewise are ordained in mortality to callings. 2. Premortally there were Resurrected Beings, Intelligences, and Spirits (spirit bodies). Postmortally it will be the same. So, not sure I get your point here. 3. Yes. and here we are. -
Premortal and postmortal Sacrament Ordinance?
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I'd love to read it and happy to repay you in karma if you could point me in the right direction (year/decade, Gen Conf?) -
Redefining Marriage to it's Biblical Definition
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Never give up on your dreams, Nehor. I'm curious though - you wouldn't support such a policy change by the Church? -
Redefining Marriage to it's Biblical Definition
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THank you for sharing, Jaydes. Would you mind elaborating as to the why you'd exit? I am genuinely curious -
Redefining Marriage to it's Biblical Definition
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Therefore, re-instituting or not re-instituting polygamy? -
After the SEC, the IRS. Make your predictions.
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Wondering what type of premortal and postmortal ordianance we may have / did / might have / might in the future also participate in. Open to your thoughts and opinions with the understanding that we're basing some of that on our experience, study, testimony, prayer, and opinion and are not speaking for the Church. I don't recall being taught or reading that premortal bodies eat but my little girl told me: Of course, they eat. What do they eat then? Angel food cake. - Perhaps if we didn't eat, we raised our right hands to support Jehovah after this/something similar: O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this Anointment (of Jehovah) to the souls of all those who sustain it that they may do so in anticipation of the body and the blood of thy Son, which shall be shed for them, and witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son, and always remember Him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may always have his Spirit to be with them. Amen. If we did eat, was it like this? O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this bread(?) to the souls of all those who partake of it, that they may eat in anticipation of the body of thy Son, and witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they are willing to take upon them the name of thy Son, and always remember Him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may always have his Spirit to be with them. Amen. O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this water? to the souls of all those who drink? of it, that they may do it in anticipation of the blood of thy Son, which shall be shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember Him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.
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Background: Many years ago I was researching Temples. Heard thru the grapevine that HQ (not sure who) discussed making mini-Temples such as part of a stake center would be converted to facilitate Temple ordinances - for members who did not live near a Temple. So - the ask here: Have any discussions or rumors of discussions on redefining marriage occurred at HQ to the polygamous standard where legal (not the LGBT type of redefining marriage which I'm sure have been discussed at length, many times)? Example: If the US legalizes polyamory (as Waterton, MA already did) what would the Church's response be? Would it be similar to the Church's response to medical and recreational marijauna? It's legalized, all things in moderation, Dr. recommended it for me, etc. Temple recommend issued, no problem. (I have no problem at wll w/ this approach btw. The goal is to get people into Temples not keep them out.) So - have any of you heard of something like: I'm thinking of a hypothetical setting such as: - Mission Presidents in Africa have shared w/ HQ that more families would accept the Savior's restored gospel if they could join w/ thier polygamous wives and children. It is legal in this country. We have told them the current accepted standard is one man, one woman. - HQ mtg agenda items might include: --- Future missinoary work: Regions: 1. China, in time. 2. Middle East. Primary religion: Islam which includes polygamy. Suggested approaches:??? Accepting families who live the law of the land or continue w/ the current approach which would cause poly families to sever, and lead to fewer converts. -- Then-Elder Nelson visited my stake and for the preisthood leadership bascially asked what questions we had. I was tempted to ask this question but didn't want to get excommunicated, turned into dust, or stigmatized against any and all future leadership callings - more so than I already have been stigmatized by my general presence.
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Maybe just IMHO here but seeing the SEC's approach to crypto - and seeing the Church's response which stated legal opinion was provided and relied upon, the unwritten part of this seems to say: We (Church) could have legally fought this for a much longer time and put more resources into this negotiation but it wasn't really worth it. We wanted to save the political capital for when we actually need it. I agree and applaud that.
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I understand - from conversations in the halls of chapels - that some potential missinoaries aren't called to certain places - such as countries where they or their parents were born whose national governments require mandatory military service from people around the average age of missinoaries. Also when certain military or intelligence careers of potential missinoaries or thier parents influence or remove the possibility of missinoaries serving in some countries, how do you process that as a local leader? For you current and former bishopric and stake presidency and other missinoary-related callings, how do you evaluate if a missionary should serve if they've had prior run=ins with law enforcement? Are there certain crimes other than the obvious (rape, murder) that disqualify a person from serving as a missionary? If a person was indicted but never convicted of something like involuntary manslaughter (I'm writing a short fictional story about this), how would local leaders process that person's missionary application? Also, for local leaders specify/suggest/disagree with some potential missionaries' request deployments? For example say a high functioning person with mild autims wants to serve prosyltizing mission but you feel a service / Temple / Family History mission would be better. What do you do?
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THank you, JLHPROF. I am intrigued by your answer. Can you share sources which support your opinion? I believe I heard a similar idea/opinion/theory from a mission companion, when I served 100 years ago.
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Foreign Language Branches - how can I help?
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Hmm...can you share more? -
Foreign Language Branches - how can I help?
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This seems odd and kind of like an intimidation tactic. Interesting. I wonder why, honestly.