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Friend of mine was recently and totally unexpectedly called to serve as a Temple President. I've heard mission president candidates are provided by stake leaders and sent to Area Authorities who under inspiration recommend a few? to the First Presidency. Not sure if existing Temple Presidencies offer suggestion to the Area Authorities who under inspiration recommend a few? to the First Presidency - or do Temple Presidencies recommend candidates directly to the First Presidency? Not sure about Patriarchs - as in I don't have any guesses as to who might recommend candidates, let alone to Area Authorities or to the First Presidency. If you dont know the SOP, I'm interested in hearing about your experiences with these types of callings and people. Thank you in advance

Are you saying plants and animals will not be resurrected? Thank you, Smac97 I'm not saying plants and animals will not be resurrected. The sources you provided and the scriptures, to me, suggest plants and animals will be resurrected. I don't understand how God could be God (kind of like 2 Nephi 2, Alma 42) and at the same time, withhold the ability / opportunity / lessons for the plants and animals to progress.

Bruh - I appreciate the shout out, mentioning me by name and all. I dont worry about grass and dandelions. I'm just not sure I can declare that I know what will happen to all plants and animals, throughout eternity.

I don’t know, man. The old forests of Middle Earth are rather malignant. Old Man Willow? No thanks! (I suppose we could build the High Hay of Buckland and burn any attacking trees in the Bonfire Glade) I vaguely remember hearing or reading somewhere that the Redwood forest roots were actually connected. So plus one for the Redwood Forest ward / stake. More recently I read about some molds that synchronize communication - and where they grow for example on old bread. Plus one for the mold wards and stakes. D&C 88:37 THere is no space in which there is no kingdom and no kingdom in which there is no space.

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods? I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. Thank you

Why would they marry the same man then? In general, I assume adults entering plural marriage are aware of the blessings and challenges it brings. Having more help with household chores reduces the time needed to be spent on chores. Bedrooms dont increase in number when kids increase - bunkbeds, etc. Some sister wives might want to work outside the home - reducing the financial burden. None of these dynamics are new.

Honestly - more posterity, and more time with my spouse as kids and callings, taxes and tithing sometimes leaves little time left in the day. I'm sure she'd like having help being a homemaker, teacher, mother, wife, sister, etc. Surrogacy is a path to the same end - just not in the US where it's prohibitively expensive but not yet illegal.

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Dear Friend, Please try hard and focus. Feels don't equal reals. Feelings don't equal facts. If you dont / wont see a connection between data (Morgan Stanley study) and a verse from Isaiah, that's fine. If you do see a connection / correlation, that's fine. Oh, and yes - I advocate polygamy. Am I supposed to feel bad because you don't?

It’s estimated that 45% of women ages 25–44 will be single by 2030, according to a study by Morgan Stanley. With the modern dating market, nearly half of women in their “childbearing” years will be without a companion. https://medium.com/hello-love/study-predicts-45-of-women-will-be-single-by-2030-1fbc99bad6a8 This is tragic and sad, IMHO. I'm sure there are many, many causes, reasons, both men and women being at least partially responsible. It seems correlated to what Isaiah prophesied, to me anyway. Isaiah 4:1 And in that day aseven women shall take hold of one bman, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy cname, to take away our dreproach. Institute Manual (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/old-testament-student-manual-kings-malachi/chapter-13?lang=eng) (13-23) Isaiah 4:1. “Take Away Our Reproach” Verse 1 of chapter four seems to continue the thought of chapter three rather than to begin a new thought. This phrase suggests that the condition mentioned in verse 1 is caused by the scarcity of men, a result of the devastation of war mentioned in Isaiah 3:25–26. The conditions under which these women would accept this marriage (“eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel”) are contrary to the Lord’s order of marriage (see Exodus 21:10; D&C 132:58–61). To be unmarried and childless in ancient Israel was a disgrace (see Genesis 30:23; Luke 1:25). So terrible would conditions in those times be that women would offer to share a husband with others and expect no material support from him, if they could claim they were married to him. - Our cultural hypersensitivity to polygamy seems to have influenced the Manual's content on this verse, no? - I could be wrong but I don't believe that women "eating their own bread and wearing their own apparel" is contrary to current Church teachings and doctrine. I'm not aware of this being a problem, is it? Is it contributing to the 45% of women ages 25–44 will be single by 2030? I don't know. - Isaiah's dualism, to me, seems to be prophesying about the Babylonian Captivity as well as the latter days trails, wars, tribulations, etc. (why else would Nephi include this chapter and verse?) If my view on his dualism is correct, does that not suggest that Isaiah 4:1 predicts and prophesies plural marriage's return (not only in the recent past, and NOT in the present) but possibly in the future?

Orlando, FL would be ideal for such (millions of tourists each year). There's land not far from the Temple as well.

How then would you approach this opportunity? Talk to your bishop? Stake pres? Write a letter to HQ?

thank you for your thoughtful post. Please DM me your wild ideas. As I have none, I'd like to believe we can use the Spirit, reason, logic, and the scriptures - understood correctly - to come to know ourselves more correctly.

This is a hypothetical situation: 1. You stayed at a hotel - had a great time - and noticed the nightstand drawer did not include a Gideon's Bible. 2. On checking out you thanked the staff for a great stay, great breakfast, great pool, etc. 3. You asked them if you could put some Bibles and Books of Mormon in the nightstands of each hotel room, like Marriott hotels do. 4. They say: You'll need to ask the manager. He/She's not here right now. You can call or email them. Here's their card. 5. You call and email, thank them for the great stay, etc. then ask if you can donate some scriptures to each hotel room. They say no or don't reply. 6. You reach out to Holiday Inn corporate HQ executives via LinkedIn, ask if you can take them to dinner, or just ask straight up: can I donate some scriptures to your hotels? (This would be something like an enterprise agreement that you alone, without authorization from Church HQ would be seeking/making.) 7. Holiday Inn exec's eventually agree. 8. What do you do now? a. talk to your Bishop b. talk to your stake president c. call Church HQ and ask for the Distribution dept d. buy the scriptures yourself = In all seriousness though, how would you approach an effort like this - meaning how would you get Church HQ to distribute free scriptures to all the Holiday Inns (between 1,200 and 2,297)?

Including more women (polygamy) would include women more, as I believe, was the title of OP's post

Polygamy, being permitted by the Church in areas where it's already legal, IMHO would include women more by including more women.

Due to the fact that they dont speak English

Ideas on possible ways the church could include women more without the need for ordination Permit polygamous families - in countries where that's legal - to join the Church. This would help the Curch include more women w/o ordination.

I'm not really in the know but heard our Area Authority / Presidency is supportive of the idea of creating a Spanish-speaking Stake near my current stake. Had two Apostles visit in recent months. The senior Apostle, chatting after the meetings with a mission president, shared that he wanted the Church to "own Easter" realizing it won't be this year or next year when we reach that goal. The junior Apostle shared that the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles has discussed creating a Spanish stake in our area. Again, I'm not in the know but I believe our current ward and stake leadership support this idea, as a means to help Spanish-speaking members advance - in leadership positions, in increased responsibility, etc. The topic does not have every member of the Quorum in agreement, so it's not moving forward at this time. When they are all in agreement, they will provide their decision. For those of you who live / lived in / near a foreign language stake, can you share what milestones were necessary before such stakes were created? 2,000 members and a certain number of Melchezidek priesthood-bearing tithe payers, I believe? I think the hesitancy might stem in part from the fact that historically wards seem to have bene created where they span different income levels so more resources are available to help meet increased need - all within a ward boundary. Same goals for stakes? I think commuting is also a cause for delaying approval. Working long hours or multiple jobs for low pay might be another reason. Any other reasons for delay / approval from your experience? Thank you in advance and Happy Friday

Born and raised in the Church and in the Covenant here. Growing up we were taught that the mortal part of our lives represents only a very small part of our existence: ----------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------- The line before the break = premortal life. The break = mortality. The post break = post-mortal life, eternal progression, exaltation, salvation only in and through the Savior, Jesus Christ. Curious - and looking for more research on this topic: What do people do pre-mortally and post-mortally, particularly in the Spirit World? My own thoughts on what people might do: - Progress, at their own pace (pre and post-mortally) - Attend Birth Farewells, like missionary farewells but for those who are going to be born (pre and post-mortally) - Explore the universe, galaxy, creations of other planets, peopling of them, etc. - Sharing the gospel, encouraging others like working with less active/ inactive / ex'd friends (pre and post-mortally) - Attend significant events like deaths, marriages, Temple ordinances (their own and that of their relatives, descendants, ancestors) etc. on earth - especially since the the Spirit World = earth. (pre and post-mortally) - Serve in different callings (pre and post-mortally): Do they have General Conference? Do people serve in all the callings there that we have here - I think they do (missionaries, bishops, stake presidents, mission presidents, area authorities, GA's, etc. Not sure about Quorum of the Twelve since they might be organized according to time lived on earth - but there were 2 Quorums of the Twelve after the Savior was resurrected? Still - since they don't need to eat or sleep, it seems like they'd have quite a lot of time on their hands. I guess that's why the emphasis on repenting while in mortality is taught.

1. I've generally seen Elders (as missionaries) serve in foreign language branches. How would such a branch successfully request sister missionaries, meaning what is the stated procedure? 2. I've heard Christianity is spreading through the Middle East, albeit underground since it's illegal to teach and preach openly. What is the policy from Church HQ on managing converted baptized members who lives in such countries (i.e. How would such congregations be manageable - if the Church organizes a congregation and accepts tithing and fast offering funds transferred out of the country, that seems to perhaps not fully = obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law vs. providing no organization, no resources, no leadership, etc. to baptized members seems like spiritual neglect which I am quite sure the General Authorities are not in favor of. Is this more a spirt of the secular law vs. letter of the secular law issue? 3. I only ask question 2 because I've heard about a few small congregations being functioning in a country where the Church isn't legally recognized. This is different than Christianity being illegal like some countries in the Middle East have declared it to be. I'm just curious about how such branches would be nurtured by leadership - without anyone in the govt finding out. In these cases, do 70's visit on occasion but tell members to not invite family or friends? Perhaps these situations are simply more in flux, each case being different and unique, and managed according to the Spirit's promptings through priesthood channels.

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Not too exhausted to respond though, eh? As it turns out - there seems to be more than one Temple in these latter days, and more than one person I'd like to suggest for positions. I pray for your permission to do so.

Basically Who is serving on the Executive Missionary committee and Temple Committee?

I suppose this is most likely the position I'm advocating for my friend. Perhaps it would be more beneficial for me to write a letter to his stake presidency??