Hugh Grant to Star in Horror Movie Re: Sister Missionaries

[Calm]

3 hours ago, Pyreaux said:

Yeah, you can't always spot the tag from far off any way, but you can tell the type from faraway.

Two collage youths in suits/dresses, mostly riding bikes and carrying backpack = LDS missionary

Two middle aged men (never seen the females) in suits, usually in a car and carrying a briefcase = JW missionary

It has always been Witnesses couples or two women where I have lived.

[MorningStar]

10 hours ago, bluebell said:

I’ve never seen Notting Hill, so I really can’t comment on that. I’m not much for romantic comedies and him as a romantic lead. Kind of makes me shudder.  

Oh, you have to watch that one! 

[MorningStar]

I could swear there were sister missionaries who were murdered quite a few years ago by a sicko. 

[Calm]

19 hours ago, MorningStar said:

I could swear there were sister missionaries who were murdered quite a few years ago by a sicko. 

You are correct. Dec 15, 1979. I did not remember this.  They were however older, in their 60s. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saint_martyrs

Just a warning, but might not want to read more about it since there is no real need.  I am providing the link for those who want what info is available even if disturbing.  It is a newspaper article, so tame in description.

https://www.newspapers.com/article/5261285/the-index-journal/

Edited June 15, 2023 by Calm

[Calm]

23 hours ago, smac97 said:

https://geektyrant.com/news/hugh-grant-looking-to-star-in-mormon-missionary-horror-film-heretic-from-a-quiet-place-writers

Can't say I'm enthused about this.

Thanks,

-Smac

There is nothing that indicates either have any background in the Church. If they aren’t member or former members, it could be excruciating to watch if the nuances are off. (If it was more thriller than horror, I am not likely to even try to watch horror except for a few vampire and maybe at a stretch mummy films…stuff that has a lot of mythology attached to it.  Not interested in the scary stuff, just the world building.)

I couldn’t handle watching Banner of Heaven, not because it was critical of the Church, but because it felt so bizarrely wrong in so many details. It was working so hard to get the period right, including typewriters etc and it did relatively well with the sets, but the language and behavior was so, so off.  Drove me buggy. 

[LoudmouthMormon]

8 hours ago, Calm said:

I couldn’t handle watching Banner of Heaven, not because it was critical of the Church, but because it felt so bizarrely wrong in so many details. It was working so hard to get the period right, including typewriters etc and it did relatively well with the sets, but the language and behavior was so, so off.  Drove me buggy. 

Heh.  I made it through two episodes, finally ducked out when they started the temple scenes.  I made a list:

Stuff I recognized:
- arguing about caffeinated drinks being against the WoW
- talking callings with each other, meeting new LDS folks.
- freaky weird families with bizarre stuff that makes no sense, antigovernment types that just seem to carry ominous background music around with them.  (I've met several, both in and out the church.)
- Large families with a very religious patriarch and matriarch running the show.
- Large family dysfunction 
- Senior missionary couples
- Service projects
- MMM, Joseph getting tarred and feathered, kicked out of Kirtland, Haun's Mill massacre
- CTR rings, references to Eagle scouts
- Relief society and food!
- The cop praying with his gun out before moving from cover.
- Baptismal interview, bishop's interview (but without the spooky background music)
- Bishop counseling psychological medications are ok. (but without the spooky background music, and they missed the part about competent medical advice.)
- The claim Porter Rockwell (Joseph's Avenging Angel) assassinated Gov Boggs on Joseph's order.
- I recognized many of the '80's attitudes towards women.

Stuff I didn't recognize: 
- The constant working of religious talk into every day conversations
- Ominous secret hidden ominous-ness
- The ominous music accompanying bouts of religious import
- "LDS women are taught to be obedient, to serve their husband, to obey."
- Looking down on women for going to college
- Bishop's counsel to stop looking into the past. 
- Deep base background music, the same they use in horror movies or haunted houses.
- "I'm the priesthood holder, now it's settled and let's have nookie"
- Praying with fingers interlocked and elbows bent, with that deep bassey horror-movie sound in the background.
- I have never seen a group of male family members ganging up on a female in an argument.
- All the LDS women educating each other about their duty to support and obey their husbands.
- Did I mention the stupid low-bass background music that accompanied all the innocent stuff like meeting /w the bishop and socializing at the potluck and having family home evening?

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by LoudmouthMormon

[Tacenda]

45 minutes ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Heh.  I made it through two episodes, finally ducked out when they started the temple scenes.  I made a list:

Stuff I recognized:
- arguing about caffeinated drinks being against the WoW
- talking callings with each other, meeting new LDS folks.
- freaky weird families with bizarre stuff that makes no sense, antigovernment types that just seem to carry ominous background music around with them.  (I've met several, both in and out the church.)
- Large families with a very religious patriarch and matriarch running the show.
- Large family dysfunction 
- Senior missionary couples
- Service projects
- MMM, Joseph getting tarred and feathered, kicked out of Kirtland, Haun's Mill massacre
- CTR rings, references to Eagle scouts
- Relief society and food!
- The cop praying with his gun out before moving from cover.
- Baptismal interview, bishop's interview (but without the spooky background music)
- Bishop counseling psychological medications are ok. (but without the spooky background music, and they missed the part about competent medical advice.)
- The claim Porter Rockwell (Joseph's Avenging Angel) assassinated Gov Boggs on Joseph's order.
- I recognized many of the '80's attitudes towards women.

Stuff I didn't recognize: 
- The constant working of religious talk into every day conversations
- Ominous secret hidden ominous-ness
- The ominous music accompanying bouts of religious import
- "LDS women are taught to be obedient, to serve their husband, to obey."
- Looking down on women for going to college
- Bishop's counsel to stop looking into the past. 
- Deep base background music, the same they use in horror movies or haunted houses.
- "I'm the priesthood holder, now it's settled and let's have nookie"
- Praying with fingers interlocked and elbows bent, with that deep bassey horror-movie sound in the background.
- I have never seen a group of male family members ganging up on a female in an argument.
- All the LDS women educating each other about their duty to support and obey their husbands.
- Did I mention the stupid low-bass background music that accompanied all the innocent stuff like meeting /w the bishop and socializing at the potluck and having family home evening?

 

You didn't see this part, but the most realistic part of this series was when the detective was in his car in the garage and had started his faith crisis. Been there, did that...the car in the garage hiding from my husband seeing, felt exactly how he did. So that part felt real. But the list you mentioned was pretty spot on. 

Often I compare my large in-law family to the series, it was right around the time I married into this large family in '84 that this all took place. And I do have a family connection to the Lafferty's by way of my husband and his brothers worked on a construction site with Ron and they said he was an odd duck, that was a crane operator and would read the BoM on his lunch break. Then later while the Lafferty's were in prison they developed a friendship with the wife of my husband's niece's husband's brother. And that led to them taking their own lives and all but one of their children. 

So in '84 I was right around the age of Brenda and so I know how we spoke, or what we wore, and the dynamics of a very stalwart family in the church, my husband's.  

Just saw this link from Book of Mormon Central and the truth behind things mentioned in the series Under the Banner of Heaven:

https://bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/latter-day-saint-perspectives-on-all-the-hard-topics-tackled-in-under-the-banner-of-heaven

Edited June 14, 2023 by Tacenda

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

- Did I mention the stupid low-bass background music that accompanied all the innocent stuff like meeting /w the bishop and socializing at the potluck and having family home evening?

Wait….you mean everyone doesn’t hear that?

[The Nehor]

It is nice to see encounters with Mormon missionaries moving out of the porn genre. Horror movies are a step up……kinda.

[CV75]

On 6/13/2023 at 4:25 AM, smac97 said:

https://geektyrant.com/news/hugh-grant-looking-to-star-in-mormon-missionary-horror-film-heretic-from-a-quiet-place-writers

Can't say I'm enthused about this.

Thanks,

-Smac

Here's a still from a similar one called "The Last Discussion."

[Peacefully]

Delete.

Edited June 14, 2023 by Peacefully

[Peacefully]

3 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Heh.  I made it through two episodes, finally ducked out when they started the temple scenes.  I made a list:

Stuff I recognized:
- arguing about caffeinated drinks being against the WoW
- talking callings with each other, meeting new LDS folks.
- freaky weird families with bizarre stuff that makes no sense, antigovernment types that just seem to carry ominous background music around with them.  (I've met several, both in and out the church.)
- Large families with a very religious patriarch and matriarch running the show.
- Large family dysfunction 
- Senior missionary couples
- Service projects
- MMM, Joseph getting tarred and feathered, kicked out of Kirtland, Haun's Mill massacre
- CTR rings, references to Eagle scouts
- Relief society and food!
- The cop praying with his gun out before moving from cover.
- Baptismal interview, bishop's interview (but without the spooky background music)
- Bishop counseling psychological medications are ok. (but without the spooky background music, and they missed the part about competent medical advice.)
- The claim Porter Rockwell (Joseph's Avenging Angel) assassinated Gov Boggs on Joseph's order.
- I recognized many of the '80's attitudes towards women.

Stuff I didn't recognize: 
- The constant working of religious talk into every day conversations
- Ominous secret hidden ominous-ness
- The ominous music accompanying bouts of religious import
- "LDS women are taught to be obedient, to serve their husband, to obey."
- Looking down on women for going to college
- Bishop's counsel to stop looking into the past. 
- Deep base background music, the same they use in horror movies or haunted houses.
- "I'm the priesthood holder, now it's settled and let's have nookie"
- Praying with fingers interlocked and elbows bent, with that deep bassey horror-movie sound in the background.
- I have never seen a group of male family members ganging up on a female in an argument.
- All the LDS women educating each other about their duty to support and obey their husbands.
- Did I mention the stupid low-bass background music that accompanied all the innocent stuff like meeting /w the bishop and socializing at the potluck and having family home evening?

 

Being from Texas, I figured it was pretty true to life for Utah, rofl!

[LoudmouthMormon]

25 minutes ago, Peacefully said:

Being from Texas, I figured it was pretty true to life for Utah, rofl!

Totally understandable reaction.   I think most of America, and all of the world (at least as much as they thought about us), figured Utah was a weird cultish place full of inbred mormon cultists that sent out missionaries to kidnap women and bring them back into Utah.

In the late '90's, my wife literally sat next to a literal businessman on a flight, who literally asked her about her horns.  He just grew up thinking mormons had horns, and he just figured it was some sort of congenital defect bony growth thing from all the inbreeding, and tried really hard to unoffensively ask how the condition was being treated in modern times, because my wife obviously didn't show any horns.

All that started changing when Salt Lake got the olympic games, and we started hearing about Mitt Romney.

But yeah, as a kid who lived in Utah from the '70's through '90's, there was a lot I didn't recognize in that show.

Edited June 14, 2023 by LoudmouthMormon

[The Nehor]

9 minutes ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Totally understandable reaction.   I think most of America, and all of the world (at least as much as they thought about us), figured Utah was a weird cultish place full of inbred mormon cultists that sent out missionaries to kidnap women and bring them back into Utah.

People always get that confused. That is, of course, Idaho and not Utah.

[bluebell]

11 minutes ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Totally understandable reaction.   I think most of America, and all of the world (at least as much as they thought about us), figured Utah was a weird cultish place full of inbred mormon cultists that sent out missionaries to kidnap women and bring them back into Utah.

In the late '90's, my wife literally sat next to a literal businessman on a flight, who literally asked her about her horns.  He just grew up thinking mormons had horns, and he just figured it was some sort of congenital defect bony growth thing from all the inbreeding, and tried really hard to unoffensively ask how the condition was being treated in modern times, because my wife obviously didn't show any horns.

All that started changing when Salt Lake got the olympic games, and we started hearing about Mitt Romney.

But yeah, as a kid who lived in Utah from the '70's through '90's, there was a lot I didn't recognize in that show.

I ran into a youth group from out of town when I was in high school that was at our county fair for some kind of Christian outreach thing. I think they were from the midwest.  Anyway, there was a girl in the group who felt my friend's head, trying to feel the horns.  

Some people need to get out more. 

[Peacefully]

2 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Totally understandable reaction.   I think most of America, and all of the world (at least as much as they thought about us), figured Utah was a weird cultish place full of inbred mormon cultists that sent out missionaries to kidnap women and bring them back into Utah.

In the late '90's, my wife literally sat next to a literal businessman on a flight, who literally asked her about her horns.  He just grew up thinking mormons had horns, and he just figured it was some sort of congenital defect bony growth thing from all the inbreeding, and tried really hard to unoffensively ask how the condition was being treated in modern times, because my wife obviously didn't show any horns.

All that started changing when Salt Lake got the olympic games, and we started hearing about Mitt Romney.

But yeah, as a kid who lived in Utah from the '70's through '90's, there was a lot I didn't recognize in that show.

I was mostly kidding:) 

[mfbukowski]

On 6/13/2023 at 11:00 AM, bluebell said:

I don’t even really like horror movies that much.  I can’t imagine someone who watches them all, and the impact it has on them.

This is the real issue here, and like porn,  they can alter brain tendencies toward violence and gore.  More more more.

[blackstrap]

6 hours ago, Tacenda said:

the wife of my husband's niece's husband's brother.

Quick, get me a geneology form !

[Calm]

So I was thinking what the plot would likely be and it seems like it would most likely end up with one missionary horribly murdered and the other transforming into a revenge fueled badass.

My question is if these sisters are following the rules of not meeting men on their own without another woman present, how this is going to play out in the first place.  Maybe Hugh has a female accomplice or is just a stalker type….or maybe the writers are just clueless about missionaries.

Edited June 15, 2023 by Calm

[bluebell]

6 minutes ago, Calm said:

So I was thinking what the plot would likely be and it seems like it would most likely end up with one missionary horribly murdered and the other transforming into a revenge fueled badass.

My question is if these sisters are following the rules of not meeting men on their own without another woman present, how this is going to play out in the first place.  Maybe Hugh has a female accomplice or is just a stalker type….or maybe the writers are just clueless about missionaries.

Put me down for the “clueless about missionaries” option. 

[Peacefully]

Speaking of missionaries, since when has hugging been allowed? We had a sister confirmed in sacrament and there were hugs all around, even for the Elders. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was refreshing, but I’ve never seen it since becoming a member. 

Edited June 15, 2023 by Peacefully

[blackstrap]

1 hour ago, Peacefully said:

there were hugs all around,

Hugs are the new  hand shake .I think it is the new generation's way. 

[Maestrophil]

23 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Heh.  I made it through two episodes, finally ducked out when they started the temple scenes.  I made a list:

Stuff I recognized:
- arguing about caffeinated drinks being against the WoW
- talking callings with each other, meeting new LDS folks.
- freaky weird families with bizarre stuff that makes no sense, antigovernment types that just seem to carry ominous background music around with them.  (I've met several, both in and out the church.)
- Large families with a very religious patriarch and matriarch running the show.
- Large family dysfunction 
- Senior missionary couples
- Service projects
- MMM, Joseph getting tarred and feathered, kicked out of Kirtland, Haun's Mill massacre
- CTR rings, references to Eagle scouts
- Relief society and food!
- The cop praying with his gun out before moving from cover.
- Baptismal interview, bishop's interview (but without the spooky background music)
- Bishop counseling psychological medications are ok. (but without the spooky background music, and they missed the part about competent medical advice.)
- The claim Porter Rockwell (Joseph's Avenging Angel) assassinated Gov Boggs on Joseph's order.
- I recognized many of the '80's attitudes towards women.

Stuff I didn't recognize: 
- The constant working of religious talk into every day conversations
- Ominous secret hidden ominous-ness
- The ominous music accompanying bouts of religious import
- "LDS women are taught to be obedient, to serve their husband, to obey."
- Looking down on women for going to college
- Bishop's counsel to stop looking into the past. 
- Deep base background music, the same they use in horror movies or haunted houses.
- "I'm the priesthood holder, now it's settled and let's have nookie"
- Praying with fingers interlocked and elbows bent, with that deep bassey horror-movie sound in the background.
- I have never seen a group of male family members ganging up on a female in an argument.
- All the LDS women educating each other about their duty to support and obey their husbands.
- Did I mention the stupid low-bass background music that accompanied all the innocent stuff like meeting /w the bishop and socializing at the potluck and having family home evening?

 

My biggest cringe was when the lead guy said something to his wife like "Heavenly Father knows you can't cook" or something like that.  I would accept "heaven knows" but never heard HF used that way ever.  Was laughable.

[bluebell]

13 hours ago, Peacefully said:

Speaking of missionaries, since when has hugging been allowed? We had a sister confirmed in sacrament and there were hugs all around, even for the Elders. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was refreshing, but I’ve never seen it since becoming a member. 

Weird. That’s not allowable on my sons mission. 

[ttribe]

16 hours ago, Calm said:

So I was thinking what the plot would likely be and it seems like it would most likely end up with one missionary horribly murdered and the other transforming into a revenge fueled badass.

My question is if these sisters are following the rules of not meeting men on their own without another woman present, how this is going to play out in the first place.  Maybe Hugh has a female accomplice or is just a stalker type….or maybe the writers are just clueless about missionaries.

Now THAT I would watch!

Sister Smith reaches into her bag, but instead of scriptures pulls out a gun and starts taking out the baddies!