Priesthood Session Rocked

[Damien the Leper]

I missed priesthood...I fell asleep after the afternoon session. I'm exhausted from school and work.

[urroner]

Actually, for those who missed it (like me) the Priesthood session is available already online! Here:

http://www.lds.org/g...d=2277147574001

Thanks. I was in bed just before the PH session started. I forgot to take my meds yesterday morning and it started going downhill after that. I would take them later, then I would be up all night long and feel like crap the next morning. At 8, my time, I decided to quit while I was behind and call it a day.

[Que]

B. H. Roberts: "In essentials, let there be unity; in all else, let there be liberty." (This is a paraphrase.)

"in necessariis unitas, in non necessariis libertas et in omnibus charitas"

(often translated "in essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity")

Oft debated origin, but definately dates at least hundreds if not a thousand years prior to Elder Roberts... ;0)

Que

[Bikeemikey]

"in necessariis unitas, in non necessariis libertas et in omnibus charitas"

(often translated "in essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity")

Oft debated origin, but definately dates at least hundreds if not a thousand years prior to Elder Roberts... ;0)

Que

Thanks.

Thats great.

[BCSpace]

I had a similar experience just a few years after that with my mission president. He asked me in a private interview "Who are you?". I kept answering with facts about me, my interests, that I was a child of God and a priesthood holder and a missionary, etc. but he kept saying, "Yes, but who ARE you?" I felt the same as you, that he was searching for something but my answers did not pass muster. Since I often fall into humor, I almost, and I stress almost, answered "One of the Three Nephites."

Now that would been epic!!

If the tactic is as Stargazer thought, then perhaps he wanted me to say "The next assistant to the president." as I was a ZL at the time. Being DL and ZL was fun and we brought fun and inspiration to our districts and zone, but I don't think I could have made the life of an AP very fun at all; too restrictive as was my understanding.

[BCSpace]

What is the BY quotes that goes like, "There is too much sameness among the people. Let there be no stereotypical Mormons!" I can't think of anything more boring than a church made up of people who are all the same, who vote the same (i.e., have the same politics), think the same, etc. Even now, in Utah, it can feel claustrophobic in church priesthood gatherings--like sitting in a room that has no fresh air blowing in, a room where we sit inhaling not only the same air, but each others gases. There is a term for this: in-breeding. And it is not healthy.

It's okay to be different!

As Pres. Uchtdorf said (as summarized by Des. News):

It would also contradict the intent and purpose of the Church, which acknowledges and protects the moral agency of each of God's children, President Uchtdorf added. "As disciples of Jesus Christ, we are united in our testimony of the restored gospel and our commitment to keep God's commandments. But we are diverse in our cultural, social and political preferences."

The Church thrives when members take advantage of this diversity and encourage each other to develop and use talents to strengthen one another, he said.

So you would interpret Uchtdorf as saying it's okay to support that which the Church is doctrinally against? This is exactly where some will misinterpret and even ignore the fact that we are to be united in testimony and commitment to keep God's commandments. Even at this very moment we are hearing that the morals and principles of the Gospel are immutable and unchanging and so it is impossible to be united in testimony etc. unless all those wishing to be so united believe the same thing on these matters. There is plenty of room to be individualistic without going against the doctrines of the Lord and his Church and that is the only possible way to parse what Uchtdorf is saying and also have everything else being said to be true at the same time.

Edited April 7, 2013 by BCSpace

[Scott Lloyd]

So you would interpret Uchtdorf as saying it's okay to support that which the Church is doctrinally against? This is exactly where some will misinterpret and even ignore the fact that we are to be united in testimony and commitment to keep God's commandments.

Alas, it would seem some are already doing this very thing.

[bdouglas]

So you would interpret Uchtdorf as saying it's okay to support that which the Church is doctrinally against? This is exactly where some will misinterpret and even ignore the fact that we are to be united in testimony and commitment to keep God's commandments. Even at this very moment we are hearing that the morals and principles of the Gospel are immutable and unchanging and so it is impossible to be united in testimony etc. unless all those wishing to be so united believe the same thing on these matters. There is plenty of room to be individualistic without going against the doctrines of the Lord and his Church and that is the only possible way to parse what Uchtdorf is saying and also have everything else being said to be true at the same time.

Not everybody who has looked at the question has come to the conclusion that there is an equation that says Mormon doctrine = Far right Republican ideology (since that's what we're really talking about, isn't it?).

[Scott Lloyd]

Not everybody who has looked at the question has come to the conclusion that there is an equation that says Mormon doctrine = Far right Republican ideology (since that's what we're really talking about, isn't it?).

Church doctrine and policy is what it is. Equating it with political ideology is a very transparent effort at well poisoning.

[BCSpace]

The loud "Ah men!" at the end of Uchdorf's talk is now on video and unedited.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/sessions/2013/04?lang=eng

Not so bad now but there was this awkward hush in the room when it happened.

[Rivers]

The loud "Ah men!" at the end of Uchdorf's talk is now on video and unedited.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/sessions/2013/04?lang=eng

Not so bad now but there was this awkward hush in the room when it happened.

I actually fell asleep during Uchdorf's talk. Not that I didn't enjoy it. I was just really tired while listening to it.

I really really liked the talk about ministering. I'd say it was one of the best GC talks I've ever heard.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Rivers

[Calm]

I actually fell asleep during Uchdorf's talk. Not that I didn't enjoy it. I was just really tired while listening to it.

He would be great at reading bedtime stories.

[Tacenda]

He would be great at reading bedtime stories.

And Elder L. Tom Perry might wake you and make sure you listen to the rest of the story

[MormonMason]

And Elder L. Tom Perry might wake you and make sure you listen to the rest of the story

Heber C. Kimball was better at waking people up. His waking device of choice was his walking cane and his favorite target your skull. He once got the attention of a speaking General Authority who was speaking over his allotted time using that method.

[The Mean Farmer]

Not to derail the thread, but when Elder Hales was talking about the Churchs standards vs. Societies standards I couldn't help but wonder how quickly we will abondon BSA come May 5th. Should prove interesting.

[Avatar4321]

Priesthood session did rock. The Spirit has been amazing in it. I think there was good advice all throughout.

[Scott Lloyd]

Not to derail the thread, but when Elder Hales was talking about the Churchs standards vs. Societies standards I couldn't help but wonder how quickly we will abondon BSA come May 5th. Should prove interesting.

Certainly would be a graphic example of the point he was making.