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  1. I too disagree with the way Alan presents this, however, The Book of Mormon itself describes itself as coming forth from the Gentiles; it just wasn't written by them. It was translated and preserved by them. So it is not inaccurate to say that the Book of Mormon has come forth from the Gentiles. It is part of the stick of Joseph, as is also I believe the D & C since that came directly through Joseph Smith who was a Gentilized Ephraimite. The way it is phrased also makes it sound like he is saying the American Indian is Manasseh, so that too needs to be rephrased. I believe he is tal
  2. "6 I -- I have said, 'Gods [’ĕlōhîm] ye [are], And sons of the Most High -- all of you, " Scripturally, the Most High El is a reference only to heavenly Father - see Luke - which says Yeshua is the Son of the Most High. I believe orthodoxy has incorrectly followed Jewish interpretation of El Shaddai as the Almighty God being the Father, but that will probably draw lots of debate. If Yeshua is El Shaddai, as I believe, then yes, He is God. See Gen 3:22 which refers to "us" as being Yehovah Elohim. If one accepts Christ as included in the "us" then, scripturally He is Yehovah Elohim with th
  3. In the OT, wilderness usually refers to mostly uninhabited desert terrain rather than jungle - just sayin.
  4. Yep, I was going to say that in not believing in Satan, you are helping him, but it just sounds... rude. Well, the fact is that if you believe in Satan, it strongly supports Christ's case - and you are right. Satan does not want that.
  5. It doesn't really matter whether you do or don't. It just is. I would say it is kinda like Star Wars: the Return of the Jedi when young Luke is tested by facing his fears ie the Dark Side. Those who realize the truth will be tested, while others go on oblivious to "the force." I used to not really believe in Satan. However, such belief is not scriptural. If you believe in Yeshua and His scriptures, there is a Satan.
  6. Bob is quite right. It cannot be done unless, one says one of the lakes is one of the seas of the text - that is certainly possible, but then it becomes impossible to really follow the east-west orientation described in the text. It ends up being a north and south orientation. To my knowledge no one has ever crossed the entire isthmus in a day and half on foot. Even a marathoner - rather than the typical Nephite. It is a mountainous terrain covered by jungle. The Book of Mormon also says there was a "line" that they presumably followed. Nothing like that in Panama. Even to this day I challenge
  7. I shouldn't assume that you have been through the endowment. Listen to what is said. Satan is Yeshua's "elder brother" in the sense that he was once chosen - before Yeshua ever was. The difference being that Satan fell. He made a bad choice - a selfish one. Presumably evil will always exist, because it is doubtful Satan will ever be saved. If it weren't Satan, presumably it would be his No 2. Just like there is always a school bully to replace one that leaves, there will always be a Satan. Satan is not bound by God since He has to give us our agency. No, men eventually learn how he wor
  8. Not constant, no. But, when you say "your own desire" that is usually working towards evil, since evil is a selfish thing. That is what evil spirits work to manipulate - your selfish "me" feelings. So to you it seems to be your choice, but you are unaware that evil spirits are influencing you to make it. So, examples are people who "choose" to start watching pornography or worse. As they choose to meet their selfish desires, they become more and more subject to the power of Satan. Some people call it an addiction since they have lost their own power of choice. Have I felt evil influence? Yes,
  9. I have pointed numerous persons to the right way on this issue, but due to trinitarian doctrine, they refuse to believe what the scriptures plainly say. They say Psalms 82 is referring to bad judges, because otherwise their theology is wrong. Shoftim is "judges" in Hebrew - not elohim. They think God is confused about the Hebrew language or something. However, Yeshua was not confused, and defended Himself against charges of blasphemy for referring to Himself as the son of God by using this very scripture. He said how is that you say I blaspheme when it is written in your law that ye are elohim
  10. What typically happens is that the land simply becomes too valuable to resist, and the owners sell off their 5 acre plots, which get subdivided. It has happened all over Utah Co. They then take their money and retire nicely or use it to buy land further out. Mapleton has changed drastically over the last 20 years as is all of eastern Utah Co. Genola is a last holdout... if you want that lifestyle... and can afford their 5 acre plots...
  11. They are one in the same. The Beast is Rome or the nation of Rome. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was saying it was one person. A horn can be one person, or just referring to a ruling office. So was Rome which fulfills Revelation by getting rich off of war. Her merchants sold all the implements of war. If you are insinuating that the US is the first beast which rose out of the sea, then who is the woman riding the beast? That great city which killed the prophets? Yeah, that is not the US. Gav, (and you if you are agreeing with him) are just wrong.
  12. Nope, that beast is Rome. Notice its parts of the previous beasts before it. The United States is the beast which comes after and arises out of the earth in Rev 13:11. It exercises its power as a superpower like Rome. 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb(Pres and Vice Pres), and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh
  13. The seven times of Leviticus cannot be directly correlated to Daniel although some are related. These are not four separate times of seven. You are reading too much into Daniel. The first time is in the wilderness after Egypt. The next time is Assyria. The next time is Babylon - then Persia - then Greece - then Rome. The last/7th time they are dispersed throughout the world(v.33), and are punished in the world - an example is the German holocaust. Then they are called back to serve the Lord in truth.
  14. Except the authors conclude that it is not cultural sharing: The sites of Manayzah and Ad-Dahariz yielded dozens of fluted points. The Arabian examples date to the Neolithic period, about 8,000 to 7,000 years ago, at least two thousand years later than the American examples. As Professor Petraglia of the Max Planck explains, "Given their age and the fact that the fluted points from America and Arabia are separated by thousands of kilometers, there is no possible cultural connection between them. This is then a clear and excellent example of cultural convergence, or independent invention i
  15. The image of horns in the OT refer to rulers/kings. It is not clear that you get that from your last statements. You are right that these various prophetic images are related. In fact they are talking about the same earthly kingdoms starting with Babylon, then Persia/Media, Greece and finally Rome. Adding the numbers from the separate beasts does not work. Rev 17:9 tells us the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth. The 4 heads of the leopard represent the 4 divisions of the Grecian kingdom after Alexander the Great died: the Ptolemaic kingdom of Egypt develop
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