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  1. After Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Jerusalem, the Hebrews returned to Jerusalem in two main migrations, but Daniel stayed in the capitol of the Persians. The first migration under Zerubbabel had commission to rebuild the Temple [known as the Temple of Zerubbabel]. The commission came through king Cyrus of Persia in his first year to build an house at Jerusalem to the LORD God. Cyrus the king brought the vessels of gold and silver king Nebuchadnezzar had taken, and gave them to Sheshbazzar, the prince of Judah (Zerubbabel), to be taken to Jerusalem. Ezra 1. Zerubbabel led forth the families listed
  2. Yeah, but because of my cheap plumbing, the parts to hook up the hot water cost me $60....🤑
  3. I find it pretty amazing how he manages to come so close to the right time, in such a wrong way... viz a viz his placing Daniel 9 as a second coming prophecy. That is just so wrong. The Jews were given 70 weeks to build up the city and the temple to the Messiah in Daniel 9. That is what happened. He ignores that the prophecy says at the end of the 70 weeks the desolator would destroy the city, and that in the midst of the week the sacrifice would cease. This happened 2000 years ago in the 7 years war in the midst of which, 70 AD, the temple was destroyed by the Romans and the daily sacrifice c
  4. I will say this, although it is not much. The natives of NE America were not idolatrous... Curious.... The natives of Central America certainly were idolatrous. For the most part the Natives of NE America believed in "the great spirit." Why is that? Almost all other aboriginal peoples are idolatrous, and made statues of their gods.
  5. Sorry, I've been worry free. I got a bidet.... https://www.bestbuy.com/site/luxe-neo-320-non-electric-self-cleaning-nozzle-universal-fit-bidet-toilet-attachment-w-warm-water-white/6408500.p?skuId=6408500 although I think it was $50 at the time....
  6. Sadly, there is truth to what you say. There has been a certain exclusionism practiced by the Church. I won't deny that. What I said is the true gospel is the answer - not the Church's current practice of its interpretation of it.
  7. Of course black lives matter. It is the platform and beliefs of the BLM leaders that is concerning - so I am not for giving the Black Lives Matter moniker any power by using it. Anyone who believes they cannot get justice under a capitalist system... well nuff said. Combined with Christian norms, capitalism has done more for mankind than any other system of governance and economics in the history of the world... does anyone want to go back to a non-electrical economy? No appliances, no cars, no planes, no trains, no phones, no computers, etc, etc... all invented and brought about in the capit
  8. The true gospel is what will finally bring peace to the earth ... so that we will call every man under the fig tree his neighbor. In this regard it is really sad what the Gentile churches have done to the gospel by their misinterpretations... So to a certain extent you are right... they have caused confusion and a mess. They excused and even promoted slavery. They have persecuted the truth, because they have been blinded by the teachings of men. I am not excusing "orthodoxy" in this regard either. "Orthodoxy" promoted numerous wars. Sadly, not even the peace of the millennium will last. Y
  9. For the Book of Mormon? Yes. The Book of Mormon took place where there was no other "nation." MesoAmerica had a large Mayan nation by 500 BC.
  10. Yeah, I didn't say coiled pottery had not been in the Americas' before 600 AD. This is what I said with emphasis added: "For instance did you know that before 600 BC native north American pottery consisted of either carved stone or Fiber-tempered pottery, and that this suddenly changed after 600 BC (Lehi's voyage) to coil-fired pottery - a technique used in the Old World ie Middle East?" Your commenter's claim of how slowly pottery technology spread from Mexico only serves to make my point more relevant. In fact coiled pottery did not appear in the SW until after Christ so didn't spread to eas
  11. Sure you can PM me, but I might be a bit reserved. I am in the process of writing a book, and don't want to spill all the beans so to speak.
  12. I just watched The History of the Saints, and found it very affirming. The number of personal witnesses to Joseph Smith's work is simply almost overwhelming. Person after person left us accounts of how Joseph Smith gave them blessings or told them what was about to transpire in their lives. Some of them had their doubts too. Were all these people deceived or liars? Who would lie so they could devote their resources and lives to supporting this lie? No. They believed in Joseph's prophetic power. I am glad you can respect their different conclusion. Did the Book of Abraham come straight off the
  13. I too disagree with the way Alan presents this, however, The Book of Mormon itself describes itself as coming forth from the Gentiles; it just wasn't written by them. It was translated and preserved by them. So it is not inaccurate to say that the Book of Mormon has come forth from the Gentiles. It is part of the stick of Joseph, as is also I believe the D & C since that came directly through Joseph Smith who was a Gentilized Ephraimite. The way it is phrased also makes it sound like he is saying the American Indian is Manasseh, so that too needs to be rephrased. I believe he is tal
  14. "6 I -- I have said, 'Gods [’ĕlōhîm] ye [are], And sons of the Most High -- all of you, " Scripturally, the Most High El is a reference only to heavenly Father - see Luke - which says Yeshua is the Son of the Most High. I believe orthodoxy has incorrectly followed Jewish interpretation of El Shaddai as the Almighty God being the Father, but that will probably draw lots of debate. If Yeshua is El Shaddai, as I believe, then yes, He is God. See Gen 3:22 which refers to "us" as being Yehovah Elohim. If one accepts Christ as included in the "us" then, scripturally He is Yehovah Elohim with th
  15. In the OT, wilderness usually refers to mostly uninhabited desert terrain rather than jungle - just sayin.
  16. Yep, I was going to say that in not believing in Satan, you are helping him, but it just sounds... rude. Well, the fact is that if you believe in Satan, it strongly supports Christ's case - and you are right. Satan does not want that.
  17. It doesn't really matter whether you do or don't. It just is. I would say it is kinda like Star Wars: the Return of the Jedi when young Luke is tested by facing his fears ie the Dark Side. Those who realize the truth will be tested, while others go on oblivious to "the force." I used to not really believe in Satan. However, such belief is not scriptural. If you believe in Yeshua and His scriptures, there is a Satan.
  18. Bob is quite right. It cannot be done unless, one says one of the lakes is one of the seas of the text - that is certainly possible, but then it becomes impossible to really follow the east-west orientation described in the text. It ends up being a north and south orientation. To my knowledge no one has ever crossed the entire isthmus in a day and half on foot. Even a marathoner - rather than the typical Nephite. It is a mountainous terrain covered by jungle. The Book of Mormon also says there was a "line" that they presumably followed. Nothing like that in Panama. Even to this day I challenge
  19. I shouldn't assume that you have been through the endowment. Listen to what is said. Satan is Yeshua's "elder brother" in the sense that he was once chosen - before Yeshua ever was. The difference being that Satan fell. He made a bad choice - a selfish one. Presumably evil will always exist, because it is doubtful Satan will ever be saved. If it weren't Satan, presumably it would be his No 2. Just like there is always a school bully to replace one that leaves, there will always be a Satan. Satan is not bound by God since He has to give us our agency. No, men eventually learn how he wor
  20. Not constant, no. But, when you say "your own desire" that is usually working towards evil, since evil is a selfish thing. That is what evil spirits work to manipulate - your selfish "me" feelings. So to you it seems to be your choice, but you are unaware that evil spirits are influencing you to make it. So, examples are people who "choose" to start watching pornography or worse. As they choose to meet their selfish desires, they become more and more subject to the power of Satan. Some people call it an addiction since they have lost their own power of choice. Have I felt evil influence? Yes,
  21. I have pointed numerous persons to the right way on this issue, but due to trinitarian doctrine, they refuse to believe what the scriptures plainly say. They say Psalms 82 is referring to bad judges, because otherwise their theology is wrong. Shoftim is "judges" in Hebrew - not elohim. They think God is confused about the Hebrew language or something. However, Yeshua was not confused, and defended Himself against charges of blasphemy for referring to Himself as the son of God by using this very scripture. He said how is that you say I blaspheme when it is written in your law that ye are elohim
  22. What typically happens is that the land simply becomes too valuable to resist, and the owners sell off their 5 acre plots, which get subdivided. It has happened all over Utah Co. They then take their money and retire nicely or use it to buy land further out. Mapleton has changed drastically over the last 20 years as is all of eastern Utah Co. Genola is a last holdout... if you want that lifestyle... and can afford their 5 acre plots...
  23. They are one in the same. The Beast is Rome or the nation of Rome. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was saying it was one person. A horn can be one person, or just referring to a ruling office. So was Rome which fulfills Revelation by getting rich off of war. Her merchants sold all the implements of war. If you are insinuating that the US is the first beast which rose out of the sea, then who is the woman riding the beast? That great city which killed the prophets? Yeah, that is not the US. Gav, (and you if you are agreeing with him) are just wrong.
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