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That’s from a letter to one of his wive’s on the subject of plural marriage if I’m not mistaken.

That’s a great way to put it. Whenever I discuss this topic with pro-choice people, they always bring up the hard cases. Someone recently asked me, “What if a 13-year old girl is raped?” I responded, “Kill the rapist. Not the baby.” But I had to concede that this was a really hard case and acknowledged that the church to which I belong would allow an exception in such a situation. But I still say the rapist needs to be executed.

I thought I’d start another thread on a a talk which may stir up controversy. I for one absolutely loved Andersen’s talk on the sanctity of life. However, I sometimes question why the church allows for rare exceptions on this issue. Edit: I could have sworn I capitalized Andersen in the title.

Except for that “autonomous zone” in Seattle. What was it called again? CHAZ or something like that. Something similar happened recently in Minneapolis.

You subvert the constitution by infringing on others’ rights with mob activity. The constitution was created to protect rights and freedoms. Mob rule and government leaders condoning it is unconstitutional. President Oaks talked about this in his October address.

Both sides were subverting the constitution. Both sides were rioting based on a lie.

The Right is the pro-riot crowd? Are you kidding me? He clearly had both sides in mind. It is interesting how both sides are using this talk to bash the other side. We should be taking the “Is it I?” approach.

I see people on both sides of the spectrum praising the talk. President Oaks did something right.

Th part of the talk that stood out to me was the comparison of life’s challenges to mountains. And how we can move those mountains. This is something President Nelson keeps emphasizing: The need for us all all to acquire our own spiritual strength. It’s an empowering message has been running through all his talks since he became President of the Church. I also really liked the line about having faith to plead for a loved one’s life and the faith to accept an undesirable answer. With so much talk of miracles, I think it is important too see the miracle of being able to reach tha

This is the one I was thinking of: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2014/04/love-the-essence-of-the-gospel

His last talk on charity was great.

Section 27 is also inspired fiction?

As one who works in healthcare, I appreciate the way President Nelson often talks about the human body.

As much I love his aviation analogies and stories, I find it unfortunate that his propensity for talking about airplanes overshadows his profound teachings and important gospel topics. He should be known for his talks on grace, gratitude, love, personal introspection, etc.

I do value his teachings. His talk Perfect Love Casteth out Fear just might be my all-time favorite. The fact that that he differs from me politically is just something I have to get over. And I will. I look forward to his remarks this upcoming conference.

Not every tradition of the past is bad. Not every tradition of the present is good.

Just watch. Elder Uchtdorf’s next talk this upcoming conference will be on forgiveness.

I've recently acquired an interest in listening to old General Conference talks. I just got done listening to Elder McConkie's final talk. Are there any other great or iconic talks anyone recommends?

I just have one question for church members that regularly advocate for progress on the gay issue. What specifically is the end goal?

Oh really?

Because of his apparent political affiliation of course. Isn't that what this thread is kind of about? I guess that must say something about me. I'm politically conservative but more liberal when it comes to religion.

Absolutely.

Doesn’t everyone have a favorite?

The more I see the social norms go down a slippery slope of insanity, the more grateful I am for our wise leaders.

There’s always repentance. Until then, I need a new favorite apostle.