How do plants and animals progress, post-Resurrection?

[nuclearfuels]

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. 

Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods?

I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. 

I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. 

Thank you

[LoudmouthMormon]

There really ain't all that much progressing that a mosquito can do.  Or a chicken, or a tree.  These things don't really experience "the opportunity of having challenges".   They conduct their mortal affairs under some pretty simple rules. Mostly guided by biology and physics, with as much instinct as you can cram into their version of a brain (if they have one), and a limited amount of ability to pick reactions to certain environmental or biological factors.

I don't think I want the mosquitos to have agency.  That means they could choose to sin.  And a cloud of 8 gazillion evil sentient mosquitos isn't exactly my definition of heaven.

Sentient forests could be nice though.

Edited April 29, 2024 by LoudmouthMormon

[blackstrap]

Just what we need... flying pigs !

[CV75]

20 minutes ago, nuclearfuels said:

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. 

Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods?

I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. 

I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. 

Thank you

It is hard to say what non-human entities really are. Or where human really ends and non-human really begins (or vice versa). Or living and non-living for that matter. On one hand, they (we) could all be Adam, an Adam, or extensions of Adam or an Adam; on the other hand, they/we could be (an) Adam in different estates or different stages of embodied experience. Ever wonder what life as a dolphin or a virus is like (and wouldn't it be nice for a Creator to empathize with His creations)? Perhaps that opportunity is extended to Adam(s) at some point(s) along our eternal progression. Even in the various estates we observe along our mortal journey, we see some that appear immortal (e.g., transdifferentiation, encystment, cloning, etc.) . There may well be an underrecognized, much broader ecosystem and symbiosis going on between us and the world around us, just as there is between us and the trillions of microbes inhabiting our bodies (some of which are inherited and thus define who we really are).

[Calm]

We got into this kind of speculation with a geologist home teacher we had awhile (got some great additions to our rock collection from him).  I like his idea (not original to him of course) that the lower living organisms, animal, plant, or fungi are really part of the earth like our cells and various attached bacteria are part of us (when we are perfected, will our gut microbiome be perfected too or will we no longer need them and they won’t get resurrected along with our bodies?), so if the earth is resurrected/celestialized, their perfected form would be whatever the earth’s perfected form is…so perhaps some or even all will continue to exist (my vote is for anything not annoying to continue to exist) or perhaps the earth will be dramatically different in that form and we will no longer have such lower life forms.

It might be possible that the spirits of lower life forms (assuming they have their own spirits and are not similar to our hair and nails, etc for the earth) actually have choice in the eternal sense and as part of their progression set aside the ability to have choice in their physical forms or maybe we just aren’t able to understand that type of agency with our limited mortal viewpoint).  I find it hard to imagine what their perfected forms could be.  A lot depends on if our resurrected forms are really as close to what we are in mortality or if perhaps we change either immediately or over time into significantly different types of beings….maybe as we go through other types of development…intelligence gets a spirit, that combo gets a body attached, once we have the intelligence, spirit, and body as one, what might be added onto that so we are a four part being, then five, six, more?

Edited May 6, 2024 by Calm

[CV75]

3 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

There really ain't all that much progressing that a mosquito can do.  Or a chicken, or a tree.  These things don't really experience "the opportunity of having challenges".   They conduct their mortal affairs under some pretty simple rules. Mostly guided by biology and physics, with as much instinct as you can cram into their version of a brain (if they have one), and a limited amount of ability to pick reactions to certain environmental or biological factors.

I don't think I want the mosquitos to have agency.  That means they could choose to sin.  And a cloud of 8 gazillion evil sentient mosquitos isn't exactly my definition of heaven.

Sentient forests could be nice though.

 

3 hours ago, Calm said:

We got into this kind of speculation with a geologist home teacher we had awhile (got some great additions to our rock collection from him).  I like his idea (not original to him of course) that the lower living organisms, animal, plant, or fungi are really part of the earth like our cells and various attached bacteria are part of us (when we are perfected, will our gut microbiome be perfected too or will we no longer need them and they won’t get resurrected along with our bodies?), so if the earth is resurrected/celestialized, their perfected form would be whatever the earth’s perfected form is…so perhaps some or even all will continue to exist (my vote is for anything not annoying to continue to exist) or perhaps the earth will be dramatically different in that form and we will no longer have such lower life forms.

It might be possible that the spirits of lower life forms (assuming they have their own spirits and are not similar to our hair and nails, etc for the earth) actually have choice in the eternal sense and as part of their progression set aside the ability to have choice in their physical forms or maybe we just aren’t able to understand that type of agency with our limited mortal viewpoint).  I find it hard to imagine what their perfected forms could be.  A lot depends on if our resurrected  are really as close to what we are in mortality or if perhaps we change either immediately or over time into significantly different types of beings….maybe as we go through other types of development…intelligence gets a spirit, that combo gets a body attached, once we have the intelligence, spirit, and body as one, what might be added onto that so we are a four part being, then five, six, more?

What is a mosquito (or any other pest, weed or humanoid -- "homo" or otherwise) in its perfected form? Metaplasia allows for a variety of answers: Maybe it is a human being that was foreordained to be unaccountable in this world, with a corresponding degree of deviation in its physical form, yet to receive the ordinances and resurrection of an exalted human being. Maybe some human beings choose to be resurrected as one of the classes or orders of beasts and thus enjoy eternal felicity in that way (D&C 77, which attests to beasts having spirits, so maybe here's a little bit of metaplasia for everyone! And allows for non-celestial thinking to determine this "kind of body with which you will be resurrected"). Maybe it is a child of God who chose to receive only the level of responsibility and joy associated with the non-human classes and orders, but still in some sort of meaningful role with those children of God who are exalted human beings.

Edited April 30, 2024 by CV75

[mfbukowski]

5 hours ago, nuclearfuels said:

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. 

Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods?

I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. 

I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. 

Thank you

They call it "evolution", the same way God created us.

 

[mfbukowski]

On 4/29/2024 at 3:03 PM, Calm said:

We got into this kind of speculation with a geologist home teacher we had awhile (got some great additions to our rock collection from him).  I like his idea (not original to him of course) that the lower living organisms, animal, plant, or fungi are really part of the earth like our cells and various attached bacteria are part of us (when we are perfected, will our gut microbiome be perfected too or will we no longer need them and they won’t get resurrected along with our bodies?), so if the earth is resurrected/celestialized, their perfected form would be whatever the earth’s perfected form is…so perhaps some or even all will continue to exist (my vote is for anything not annoying to continue to exist) or perhaps the earth will be dramatically different in that form and we will no longer have such lower life forms.

It might be possible that the spirits of lower life forms (assuming they have their own spirits and are not similar to our hair and nails, etc for the earth) actually have choice in the eternal sense and as part of their progression set aside the ability to have choice in their physical forms or maybe we just aren’t able to understand that type of agency with our limited mortal viewpoint).  I find it hard to imagine what their perfected forms could be.  A lot depends on if our resurrected  are really as close to what we areure o in mortality or if perhaps we change either immediately or over time into significantly different types of beings….maybe as we go through other types of development…intelligence gets a spirit, that combo gets a body attached, once we have the intelligence, spirit, and body as one, what might be added onto that so we are a four part being, then five, six, more?

We don't even know "What It is Like to Be Bat".  https://cutonthebiasworkshop.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nagel-1974-what-is-it-like-to-be-a-bat.pdf

Whales "sing" over tremendous distances, and navigate thousands of miles back to their places of birth without maps or astral navigation.  Whales have the largest brains of any creature on earth.

The much smaller brains of birds achieve the same levels of navigation as the whales.

The abilities of octopi are staggering, unlike any other creature, and almost "alien":  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/shows/secrets-of-the-octopus

The word "perfected" implies a finished state beyond which one cannot develop.   I don't think even Eloheim has stopped progressing, contrary to our dear wonderful Elder McConkie's inspired opinion. I also do not perceive any reason to actually think of these creations of God as lesser than we are in God's plan, and I don't think you are necessarily saying that.

 

Edited April 30, 2024 by mfbukowski

[rpn]

Doesn't this all depend on what we eat and how we regulate temperature after resurrection and what paradisiacal glory turns out to be?

[the narrator]

All I know is that the resurrected earth is gonna be buried under hundreds upon hundreds of feet of resurrected and immortal ants, algae, mold, bacteria, and ivy.

[Calm]

47 minutes ago, the narrator said:

All I know is that the resurrected earth is gonna be buried under hundreds upon hundreds of feet of resurrected and immortal ants, algae, mold, bacteria, and ivy.

This must be what all the dark matter is for in the universe, all the necessary elements to recreate bodies for all the resurrected beings in the universe down to the most primitive/simple organism since their original elements won’t be available due to the ‘cycle of life’…or maybe the ‘recycle of life’ is more accurate.  So is it the first creature that used a particular element (atoms, molecules, quarks or whatever) that gets to keep it for all eternity, the last one, the most righteous while living, or do we all get new, higher grade material for the next stage of our existence?

This is not a serious post, just in case anyone thinks I am promoting the above idea instead of seeing the possibility as illogical based on the information we currently have, such as the conundrum that narrator has pointed out above.

Edited April 30, 2024 by Calm

[LoudmouthMormon]

Got a new puppy.   Her favorite pastime right now, besides putting the whole world in her mouth, is "finding my hooman and we gaze into each other's eyes with love and adoration".   I do not believe adding sentience to something is a way to perfect it.  In my speculative opinion, a glorified, perfected version of my pupper, is just an immortal version of who she is right now.

[CV75]

2 hours ago, the narrator said:

All I know is that the resurrected earth is gonna be buried under hundreds upon hundreds of feet of resurrected and immortal ants, algae, mold, bacteria, and ivy.

So being both full and enough to spare is an oxymoron after all! (D&C 104:17) 

...and if it is inhabited by celestial people who have kingdoms of both lesser and greater orders manifest to them, there must be something other than celestial glory to consider in the character of the greater orders, suggesting continued progress and/or physical placement of habitants.

[CV75]

17 hours ago, rpn said:

Doesn't this all depend on what we eat and how we regulate temperature after resurrection and what paradisiacal glory turns out to be?

How in hell would i know?!!!

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, Calm said:

 

This is not a serious post, just in case anyone thinks I am promoting the above idea instead of seeing the possibility as illogical based on the information we currently have, such as the conundrum that narrator has pointed out above.

Gotcha. Agree.

And I believe that mixing subjective religious experiences with objective scientific observations upon which anyone can examine as "evidence", is major category mistake, as you pointed out, that such is "illogical".

Again it is mixing the subjective with the objective.   Again objectively, color is the product of our nervous systems, while subjectively RED IS THIS.

And this is why you cannot explain the EXPERIENCE of "red" to a blind person.  He/she does not have the neural equipment to have the same subjective experience that sighted people have.

A blind person could be a great expert about vision without ever having a subjective experience of what it is like to see the color RED.

And so, as we began a discussion earlier about whether Vogel's biography of Joseph Smith could be "Positivist" or not- I think that NO BIOGRAPHY can possibly be Positivist because biographies inherently include hearsay evidence.   The statement "Joseph Smith was born in ..."(year - whatever)..." is based on hearsay.  I was not there at his birth, so I could not objectively describe anything about him or his life.   So inherently I cannot make an "objective" statement about his birth.  Yes hearsay evidence IS evidence, but it is not OBJECTIVE evidence.   It is not experimental evidence which anyone can test for themselves.   In statements about history, THAT is the only kind of evidence available to us, and this is precisely why, in my opinion, Book of Mormon History CANNOT be "proven" to be correct through experimentation.

Those days are gone!

So we can take this farther, but the poster who claimed that Vogel's biography of Joseph did not want to carry it forward, so if we DO end up taking it farther, it will not be with his participation, and therefore a waste of time.

[mfbukowski]

14 minutes ago, CV75 said:

How in hell would i know?!!!

You couldn't.

THAT is the issue!

Besides, we already subjectively know - for those with testimonies-  that only Humans will be resurrected since Jesus was a human, and we have no evidence that other life forms will be resurrected.   Scriptures tell us, subjectively for those with testimonies, that other humans as well came forth after Jesus' resurrection.

So I am not too worried about all the ants that ever existed coming forth.    Mixing science fiction with scripture is probably not too wise. 

 

 

[Bernard Gui]

Alma 40:3 Nevertheless, there are many mysteries which are kept, that no one knoweth them save God himself.

[CV75]

1 hour ago, mfbukowski said:

You couldn't.

THAT is the issue!

Besides, we already subjectively know - for those with testimonies-  that only Humans will be resurrected since Jesus was a human, and we have no evidence that other life forms will be resurrected.   Scriptures tell us, subjectively for those with testimonies, that other humans as well came forth after Jesus' resurrection.

So I am not too worried about all the ants that ever existed coming forth.    Mixing science fiction with scripture is probably not too wise. 

 

 

This allows that the celestial beasts described in D&C77 are not resurrected beings, but continue to exist in spirit form that assumes an order (or a particular estate or state of being), that enjoys eternal felicity. Didn’t we also once enjoy eternal felicity in the presence of God, as premortal spirit innocents? And that such spirits/beasts may someday qualify to become resurrected by virtue of becoming human beings (how do they do that?). In the meantime, they also enjoy paradisaical and telestial felicity as their placement may be. Some in the early restoration may have referred to this process as “reincarnation,” allowing that all forms of life or element may follow suit.

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, CV75 said:

This allows that the celestial beasts described in D&C77 are not resurrected beings, but continue to exist in spirit form that assumes an order (or a particular estate or state of being), that enjoys eternal felicity. Didn’t we also once enjoy eternal felicity in the presence of God, as premortal spirit innocents? And that such spirits/beasts may someday qualify to become resurrected by virtue of becoming human beings (how do they do that?). In the meantime, they also enjoy paradisaical and telestial felicity as their placement may be. Some in the early restoration may have referred to this process as “reincarnation,” allowing that all forms of life or element may follow suit.

It is a possibility I suppose. 

 

[mfbukowski]

2 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Alma 40:3 Nevertheless, there are many mysteries which are kept, that no one knoweth them save God himself.

Long time no see!  Glad you are back!

[3DOP]

On 4/29/2024 at 3:57 PM, nuclearfuels said:

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. 

Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods?

I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. 

I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. 

Thank you

I thought nothing of mowing some dandelions (in a stubborn part of my yard) yesterday. Did I hinder the deification of a person, or potential person, that was in or part of a dandelion? No. No. No. We can't believe in The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but we can believe in weeds, moles, and sand as potentially future persons? What about an atom of whatever? Please. Stop. Do we agree that humans are made in the image of God? That is why many Christians hope that humans can be deified. Do we agree that there is a distinction between creatures made in God's image, and those not so made, while those made in God's image may recognize the beauty and goodness of those not so made, including every animal, plant or mineral? And can we agree to an hierarchy in creation? Is every single thing potentially equal? Is every single thing to potentially become a person? Is every tiniest sliver of wood (dead or alive) to potentially become God? Is every thing in the material universe immortal? I know the limits of my credulity. I can not reason my way to believing  that every smallest thing in the universe shall be deified. I do not believe that any religion has revealed that to be true, and certainly not my Catholic faith. I could hope that most Christians could agree about what I say in the next paragraph.

I suggest that no sane person, (unless they were a mineral, plant or irrational animal), would accuse me of murder for my lawn mowing activities. But it follows that if individual minerals, or plants, or irrational animals have the potential to become God, then they naturally are our neighbours and we must never kill them, or even mow them, as i did to the dandelions yesterday. Nay...we must love them as did the Good Samaritan. Who or what is not our neighbour, if every atom in the universe can be deified? 

Edited May 1, 2024 by 3DOP

[CV75]

10 hours ago, 3DOP said:

I thought nothing of mowing some dandelions (in a stubborn part of my yard) yesterday. Did I hinder the deification of a person, or potential person, that was in or part of a dandelion? No. No. No. We can't believe in The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but we can believe in weeds, moles, and sand as potentially future persons? What about an atom of whatever? Please. Stop. Do we agree that humans are made in the image of God? That is why many Christians hope that humans can be deified. Do we agree that there is a distinction between creatures made in God's image, and those not so made, while those made in God's image may recognize the beauty and goodness of those not so made, including every animal, plant or mineral? And can we agree to an hierarchy in creation? Is every single thing potentially equal? Is every single thing to potentially become a person? Is every tiniest sliver of wood (dead or alive) to potentially become God? Is every thing in the material universe immortal? I know the limits of my credulity. I can not reason my way to believing  that every smallest thing in the universe shall be deified. I do not believe that any religion has revealed that to be true, and certainly not my Catholic faith. I could hope that most Christians could agree about what I say in the next paragraph.

I suggest that no sane person, (unless they were a mineral, plant or irrational animal), would accuse me of murder for my lawn mowing activities. But it follows that if individual minerals, or plants, or irrational animals have the potential to become God, then they naturally are our neighbours and we must never kill them, or even mow them, as i did to the dandelions yesterday. Nay...we must love them as did the Good Samaritan. Who or what is not our neighbour, if every atom in the universe can be deified? 

Ecclesiastes 3 teaches us that there is a time and a place, and allowances, for everything that is good or leads to greater good, so mowing down dandelions is perfectly OK (unless your neighbor is standing on one!) --  

[MiserereNobis]

On 4/29/2024 at 3:07 PM, LoudmouthMormon said:

Sentient forests could be nice though

I don’t know, man. The old forests of Middle Earth are rather malignant. Old Man Willow? No thanks! (I suppose we could build the High Hay of Buckland and burn any attacking trees in the Bonfire Glade)

[Teancum]

11 hours ago, 3DOP said:

I thought nothing of mowing some dandelions (in a stubborn part of my yard) yesterday. Did I hinder the deification of a person, or potential person, that was in or part of a dandelion? No. No. No. We can't believe in The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but we can believe in weeds, moles, and sand as potentially future persons? What about an atom of whatever? Please. Stop. Do we agree that humans are made in the image of God?

What does being made in the image of God really mean?

 

11 hours ago, 3DOP said:

That is why many Christians hope that humans can be deified. Do we agree that there is a distinction between creatures made in God's image, and those not so made, while those made in God's image may recognize the beauty and goodness of those not so made, including every animal, plant or mineral?

All creatures on earth are made of the same stuff. The only reason humans thing we are special is because in the past few hundred thousands of years homo sapiens have evolved sufficiently enough to ask questions like this.  Religion has evolved along with us because it tries to answer questions like this and has had societal and cultural benefits.to humans. There are many religions the precede the monotheistic religions of the Bible that answer such questions differently than Christianity does and they were around for a long time.  But no, we are not made in and God's image.  But God is made in our image because humans made up the God of Christianity just like all the other gods before.  It had become intriguing to me that Christianity basically posits that God created the entire universe just so one species of hairless apes could live on this speck of a planet and worship this god.  That is a pretty egocentric position IMO. 

11 hours ago, 3DOP said:

 

And can we agree to an hierarchy in creation? Is every single thing potentially equal? Is every single thing to potentially become a person? Is every tiniest sliver of wood (dead or alive) to potentially become God? Is every thing in the material universe immortal? I know the limits of my credulity. I can not reason my way to believing  that every smallest thing in the universe shall be deified. I do not believe that any religion has revealed that to be true, and certainly not my Catholic faith. I could hope that most Christians could agree about what I say in the next paragraph.

As Carl Sagan used to say, everything is made from stardust and everything will eventually return to stardust, including us.

11 hours ago, 3DOP said:

I suggest that no sane person, (unless they were a mineral, plant or irrational animal), would accuse me of murder for my lawn mowing activities. But it follows that if individual minerals, or plants, or irrational animals have the potential to become God, then they naturally are our neighbours and we must never kill them, or even mow them, as i did to the dandelions yesterday. Nay...we must love them as did the Good Samaritan. Who or what is not our neighbour, if every atom in the universe can be deified? 

Well I maybe should not have even jumped in here since I lean agnostic. But my take is we are all biological creatures and I believe all species, plants and such have a right to life in that species realm of being. What creatures are sentient and which are I cannot tell.  But I try to not even kill a bug if I can help it. Buy hey I could be wrong about all of this.☺️

[smac97]

On 4/29/2024 at 2:57 PM, nuclearfuels said:

Seems contrary to the nature of God to presume that all plants and animals are unable to progress or damned (being unable to progress) after they die, and are resurrected at the Savior's Second Coming. 

Are you saying plants and animals will not be resurrected?

On 4/29/2024 at 2:57 PM, nuclearfuels said:

Is it possible that they progress at some future point (100 Billion years for example) and earn the opportunity to have more challenges, obtain free agency, walk by faith, etc. and become gods?

This is conjecture, but I think not.  I think there is a qualitative difference between God's children and His other created and ensouled entities.  Among other things, human being have moral agency, marriage, etc.  See, e.g., here:

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Yes, animals have spirits (see D&C 77:2–3). Of course, there is a major difference between animals’ spirits and our spirits—we are begotten sons and daughters of Heavenly Father, and they are not.

And according to the Prophet Joseph Smith, there are at least some animals in heaven. He said:

“John saw curious looking beasts in heaven; … actually there, giving glory to God. … (See Rev. 5:13.) …

“I suppose John saw beings there of a thousand forms, that had been saved from ten thousand times ten thousand earths like this,—strange beasts of which we have no conception: all might be seen in heaven. John learned that God glorified Himself by saving all that His hands had made, whether beasts, fowls, fishes or men; and He will glorify Himself with them” (in History of the Church, 5:343).

So, although we don’t have a complete understanding of what happens to animals after they die, we believe that they will enjoy some kind of salvation and immortality.

And here:

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Will our pets and other animals be in heaven?

President Joseph Fielding Smith perhaps taught about this subject more than any other Church leader. In an October 1928 conference address, he said, “The animals, the fishes of the sea, the fowls of the air, as well as man, are to be recreated, or renewed, through the resurrection, for they too are living souls.”

He also wrote in Answers to Gospel Questions that “animals do have spirits and that through the redemption made by our Savior they will come forth in the resurrection to enjoy the blessing of immortal life.”

Joseph Smith said this: “Says one, ‘I cannot believe in the salvation of beasts.’ Any man who would tell you this could not be, would tell you that the revelations are not true. John heard the words of the beast giving glory to God, and understood them” (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 5, 343–44).

Apostle Bruce R. McConkie was also of the opinion that animals, and all forms of life, are eternal: “Animals, birds, fowls, fishes, plants, and all forms of life occupy an assigned sphere and play an eternal role in the great plan of creation, redemption, and salvation. They were all created as spirit entities in pre-existence” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966).

An interesting article from the Ensign in 1979 gives more information on the topic. Although the article was written by an institute director, not a general Church leader, it draws on teachings from the scriptures and past leaders.

Here are the most important points from the article:

• It appears that yes, animals will be resurrected, based on Doctrine and Covenants 77 and teachings of Joseph Smith.
• The scriptures speak about animals being in the celestial kingdom, but we don’t know if they’ll be in the other degrees of glory.
• Animals most likely won’t be judged since they have no conscience or sense of right and wrong.
• Animals might be reunited with their owners in the afterlife, but we don’t know.

See also here.

On 4/29/2024 at 2:57 PM, nuclearfuels said:

I understand I'm asking something we might not exactly have 100% firmly established in the scriptures, and so I thank you for your patience. 

I'm looking forward to your faithful answers, theories, ideas. 

Thank you

I look forward to finding out about this stuff in the Hereafter.

Thanks,

-Smac