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  1. Bruno, Swick, and Literski reference Barker-Cryer, Neville. “The De-Christianizing of the Craft.” Ars Quatuor Coronathrum, 97 (1984): 34–60; and Brodsky, Michael L. “Why was the Craft De-Christianized?” Ars Quatuor Coronaturum, 99 (1986). I don't think either are available online.
  2. That is a truth. FWIW, I'm a big fan of Young's Adam-God doctrine, though that doesn't mean I actually buy into it. However, it is one reason why I was disappointed that these scene was cut from Prometheus:
  3. Sure, and BYoung taught a whole lot of stuff that you probably reject as well. Perhaps this is just my heretic self speaking, but I like to imagine a God that actually doesn't care so much about the material nature of a rite and more about the growth and behavior the rites are intended to engender. Given that virtually every LDS sacrament has gone through some material change in the last couple centuries, it would probably be good that he care more for the function than the material performance.
  4. Yes, or at least that's heavily implied by them all becoming Masons before being endowed. Master, since you aren't really a Mason until you've done the first three degrees. For that you'll just have to wait for Chapter 16 of Method Infinite.
  5. Perhaps God cares less about the form and more about the covenant, and the problem was more about the latter than the former. Afterall, it seems to make more sense for God to be beholden to a covenant than the material nature of a rite.
  6. This seems to largely be done independently and over the course of a couple centuries, beginning in the early 18th century and sped up following the Morgan affair, as Lodges and orders attempted to make themselves more inclusive of non-Christians in order to make up for the significant drop of participants. Yes, this is abundantly clear--that Joseph Smith and his colleagues believed the legends associated with Masonry and that it was a corrupted (meaning that parts had been lost) order first given to Adam. However, unlike something to be done away with, it was viewed more akin t
  7. We were hoping to have it out later last year and then early this year, but the pandemic threw a wrench in our plans, especially the first few months, as being home with 2 grade-school age kids and having to educate and entertain them made diving into a deep editing project difficult. But, have no fear, it's currently in a final stage of editing, and we should have a galley available to peruse at MHA in a couple months. Just finished watching your video. A big challenge with contemporary LDS-Masons (or is it Masonic Latter-Day Saints?) commenting on the relationship between Mormonism and
  8. You may be interested in the forthcoming volume, Method Infinite: Freemasonry and the Mormon Restoration, which will be published later this year. The authors go into great detail on Masonry as it existed in the early 19th century and make a very compelling case that Masonry influenced how Joseph Smith and his contemporaries viewed the prophet and the work of the Restoration far more than has been realized. Will check out your video later.
  9. Nothing in the pipeline. Just a question that has interested me. Thanks for the replies everyone. TBH, I was hoping that maybe there might be something a little more theoretically rich as opposed to just saying people need to squint harder, but so it goes.
  10. I'm interested in the primary apologetic explanations for why virtually all unique/restored LDS doctrines are nearly (or completely) absent from the Book of Mormon--doctrines such as work for the dead, three degrees of glory, LDS temple rites, pre-existence, theosis, differing priesthoods, embodied Father, church hierarchical structure, etc. The absence (or virtual absence) of these doctrines seems incongruent with the standard narrative of the Book of Mormon not only being preserved in a way that the Bible was not, but also in that the scriptural justifications for these doctrines lie almost
  11. Someone in r/exmormon suggested defecating on his grave, so it's probably about the same.
  12. I've known Tom for some years now, and all of this news has left me moving between numb, sadness, and anger. I don't think the loving (though quick to anger and burning bridges left and right) person I knew was a facade, but was just one part of a very troubled person who was in combat with his other parts. Though he stopped believing and being an active member years ago, I never considered him (nor do I think he considered himself) a post Mormon. He spent the last few years caring for and repairing the Kirtland Temple, while likely simultaneously trying to hide from his crimes. He loved that
  13. A lot can be gained from just talking to them instead of making silly assumptions.
  14. They were also being incredibly wasteful with their money, printing far, far, far more copies of their journals and many other publications than were needed. (This isn't an attack on anyone. They were scholars, not publishers.) UofI wasn't chosen for prestige. It was to get professional publishing and distribution help to both save money and better utilize resources.
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