Nofear Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Senator said: I'm willing to put some money down that we will hear the phrase at least once, "for so persecuted they the prophets which where before" Or, John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." But, I don't think we'll hear either scripture? No. The Apostles experience it and are fully aware of it the Savior's warning but I don't think they think anything is to be gained by pointing out that the persecution of Elder Holland is a continuing fulfillment of prophecy.
Amulek Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 My prediction: After announcing new temple construction, President Nelson will then introduce a massive new BYU Creamery expansion project - designed to take high quality dairy to the masses...beginning in Dallas of course. 2
The Nehor Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Well so far, first-worlders are the only ones I’ve seen agitating for it. I am not advocating for it. I put it in a list of silly predictions. I have spoken with a few people who think it would be a good idea from climates that would make it convenient. It is as likely as most of the predictions on my list. In other words it is not very likely.
The Nehor Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 4 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Agreed. These are the little addictions of the first world that weaken us mentally at least and then we become actually unable to deal with the little discomforts we might not even notice, had we been raised without them being fixed for us. Just call the repair man, and all our problems disappear And yet a day is coming when even having clean water could become an issue. That already happens in disaster zones We have to get tougher to take on what is coming, even maybe just locally. That might be true of Boomers and to a lesser extent Gen Xers but the younger generations are, speaking generally, plenty tough due to having to claw their way through life without the advantages of previous generations. 2
Boanerges Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 5:57 PM, Tacenda said: Maybe I took it more seriously than the devout LDS, and he may not feel the need. I can't say that I'm the most devout and I took his remarks very seriously as well. I don't really want to get into my feelings about what happened or about Elder Holland in general. But neither he nor his peers are in the habit of apologizing and that may be in part because of the whole can of worms that opens. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Boanerges said: I can't say that I'm the most devout and I took his remarks very seriously as well. I don't really want to get into my feelings about what happened or about Elder Holland in general. But neither he nor his peers are in the habit of apologizing and that may be in part because of the whole can of worms that opens. Why is an apology even in order? The speaker at the graduation commencement was given free rein to speak his mind. The risk of having his remarks open to criticism is the price he paid for that privilege. Would he or his supporters prefer that his speech had been censored in the first place? Edited September 25, 2021 by Scott Lloyd
Chum Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: the younger generations are, speaking generally, plenty tough due to having to claw their way through life without the advantages of previous generations. This is the truest thing I've read since Trump volunteered he bought politicians.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: I am not advocating for it. I put it in a list of silly predictions. I have spoken with a few people who think it would be a good idea from climates that would make it convenient. It is as likely as most of the predictions on my list. In other words it is not very likely. You might not have meant to be taken seriously, but others are chiming in as though they do.
OGHoosier Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Chum said: Holland wears a hat. But what kind of hat?
Chum Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, OGHoosier said: But what kind of hat? Head.
Tacenda Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 4 hours ago, The Nehor said: That might be true of Boomers and to a lesser extent Gen Xers but the younger generations are, speaking generally, plenty tough due to having to claw their way through life without the advantages of previous generations. Very true, sadly.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: Very true, sadly. You mean Nehor was serious about this?
The Nehor Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: You mean Nehor was serious about this? It happens.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Nehor said: It happens. I know. But this one seemed so outlandish I thought it was another of your excursions into ironic humor. Edited September 25, 2021 by Scott Lloyd 1
Tacenda Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: You mean Nehor was serious about this? I had to think about it for a minute and my thoughts were on the problem young adults have in renting an apartment or buying a home for a decent price and college not affordable. Add in the state the USA and world is in. Climate change, with all the horrific weather patterns. Social media in their faces, where you and I and most likely Nehor, didn't need to worry our lives could be on display for all to see, because someone plastered it all over social media with the click of their phones. I could probably think of more, but hopefully you get what I'm saying. It was a slower time. Now the children are caught up in the adults in their lives, busy life. When I grew up it felt like time was so slow, but youngsters now think time is going fast, just like the adults. So in these ways I agreed with Nehor. Edited September 25, 2021 by Tacenda
The Nehor Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: I know. But this one seemed so outlandish I thought it was another of your excursions into ironic humor. There is nothing outlandish about the idea that Boomers were, collectively speaking, born with a silver spoon in their mouths. 1
Calm Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tacenda said: I had to think about it for a minute and my thoughts were on the problem young adults have in renting an apartment or buying a home for a decent price and college not affordable. Add in the state the USA and world is in. Climate change, with all the horrific weather patterns. Social media in their faces, where you and I and most likely Nehor, didn't need to worry our lives could be on display for all to see, because someone plastered it all over social media with the click of their phones. I could probably think of more, but hopefully you get what I'm saying. It was a slower time. Now the children are all caught up in the adult's busy lives. When I grew up it felt like time was so slow, but youngsters now think time is going fast, just like the adults. So in these ways I agreed with Nehor. I agree with you. There are significant ways that youth have it harder these days. For example, there is double the amount of children growing up in single parent homes. Generally this at the very least means lower income levels. One in five children will experience a parental breakup by age 9. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/27/about-one-third-of-u-s-children-are-living-with-an-unmarried-parent/
Tacenda Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Calm said: I agree with you. There are significant ways that youth have it harder these days. For example, there is double the amount of children growing up in single parent homes. Generally this at the very least means lower income levels. One in five children will experience a parental breakup by age 9. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/27/about-one-third-of-u-s-children-are-living-with-an-unmarried-parent/ Here's another to add to your link: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/millennials-earn-20-percent-less-than-boomersdespite-being-better-educated.html
esodije Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 I heard some speculation that a big change is in the wind concerning the roles of bishops, EQ presidents, RS presidents, stake leaders, and the de facto lines of authority among them. Something about priesthood keys, including those powers delegated to our sisters, and to which priesthood (Aaronic vs. Melchizedek) they actually pertain. I can’t say if any of this will actually come up in GC, but it would be the means of reaching the broadest possible simultaneous audience. 1
Chum Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 Conference is held outdoors so Eyring can play with the T-Shirt cannon. 3
JustAnAustralian Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, esodije said: I heard some speculation that a big change A lot of stuff is already given in leadership training about those kinds of things, so I could see it making it to the wider audience. 2
amo Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 With more and more countries legalizing same-sex marriage, I believe the brethren will now emphasize more and more the difference between MARRIAGE and SEALING, stressing on the divinity of the latter. The calling of Ward Young Men president may be reinstated. Amo
Fair Dinkum Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 President Nelson will announce that some future Temple's will have a Cross on top instead of a Moroni statue and encourage all members to run out to their nearest Deseret Book Store to buy the new line of Cross jewellery now available as both lapel pins for the men and necklaces for the women. (notice I said women instead of girls)
mnn727 Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 3:43 PM, Chum said: Holland wears a hat. A Bud-Light baseball cap? A "Make the Church Great Again" hat?
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