Scott Lloyd Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, The Nehor said: I am not arguing that the middle ground is right. I am arguing that both sides characterizing him as wrong and extreme suggests that he is not extreme. Whether he is right is a different matter. He is right but not because the middle ground is right. OK, got it.
longview Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Nehor said: I am not arguing that the middle ground is right. I am arguing that both sides characterizing him as wrong and extreme suggests that he is not extreme. Whether he is right is a different matter. He is right but not because the middle ground is right. But but but . . . he could still be extreme . . . in his own way as the other two in their own ways? It is not a two-dimensional argument . . . it could be 3-dimensional?
The Nehor Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, longview said: But but but . . . he could still be extreme . . . in his own way as the other two in their own ways? It is not a two-dimensional argument . . . it could be 3-dimensional? If so I like his kind of extremism and would like to see more of it. If it is sound and sensible and annoys everyone then it sounds good to me.
longview Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Nehor said: If so I like his kind of extremism and would like to see more of it. If it is sound and sensible and annoys everyone then it sounds good to me. Extremism for the sake of extremism?
The Nehor Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, longview said: Extremism for the sake of extremism? No, I don’t think it is extremist at all but I like the President Oaks talk even if it is extremist.
Tacenda Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 My prediction sure is a laugh, only two women speakers for both days of conference???
Popular Post Rain Posted April 7, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, longview said: I recently watched a video of Thomas Monson's life (for the second time). I though it very impressive how he was called at a young age to be president of the youth organization (MIA or something). Attendance at his youth activities was MUCH greater than that of the regular ward sacrament meeting. He must have had non-members joining in. Might be because Thomas had no guile and radiated so much love out of his persona. I met him once while standing in line at a viewing with my daughter not long before President Hinckley died. His focus was on my daughter - her school (she was wearing a school shirt), what she liked to do etc. He was there with her. When a person is there with you without their mind wandering it really helps you feel that love. Edited April 7, 2021 by Rain 5
The Nehor Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 9:11 PM, Tacenda said: My prediction sure is a laugh, only two women speakers for both days of conference??? I tried to warn everyone that letting women pray would cut down on the number of women speaking but no one listens to me. 2
Kenngo1969 Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 7:07 AM, Scott Lloyd said: I wonder if he was in any degree aware of the hissy fits that might ensue but, in an impressive show of courage, elected to make the remarks anyway. If so, my already high regard for him just increased. Just out of curiosity, Scott, before you quit your "day job," did you ever have occasion to meet with him one-on-one, or perhaps in a small group?
HappyJackWagon Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 10 hours ago, The Nehor said: I tried to warn everyone that letting women pray would cut down on the number of women speaking but no one listens to me. Pretty sad, isn't it.
Zeniff Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 10 hours ago, The Nehor said: I tried to warn everyone that letting women pray would cut down on the number of women speaking but no one listens to me. Praying counts as speaking, to me. 1
Tacenda Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zeniff said: Praying counts as speaking, to me. Were there any prayers given by women? I still need to watch the rest of conference.
bluebell Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tacenda said: Were there any prayers given by women? I still need to watch the rest of conference. If I'm remembering right the closing prayer at the last session was given by Sis. Eubanks.
Tacenda Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bluebell said: If I'm remembering right the closing prayer at the last session was given by Sis. Eubanks. Thank you
Peacefully Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Tacenda said: Thank you I’ll get it in before Scott does, it’s “Eubank” lol! I love her! Edited April 8, 2021 by Peacefully 3
Scott Lloyd Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Just out of curiosity, Scott, before you quit your "day job," did you ever have occasion to meet with him one-on-one, or perhaps in a small group? While I was a senior at BYU and he was university president, I interned at the university alumni magazine. The editor and I together interviewed President Oaks for an article in the magazine. Soon, I would graduate and President Oaks would be released. It would, of course, be years before he would be an apostle and I a Church News staffer. Though I covered his speeches a few times, our one-on-one contacts were limited to brief phone conversations of no great moment about articles I had written (we always gave apostles the opportunity to see our content prior to publication when it involved them). If he recognized me from our encounter at BYU, he never said. Edited April 8, 2021 by Scott Lloyd
rongo Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Do you mean President Manson? None to speak of. Not President Manson. Sister Fromme. Squeaky Fromme. Sorry --- couldn't resist. 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, rongo said: Not President Manson. Sister Fromme. Squeaky Fromme. Sorry --- couldn't resist. What post are you quoting?
rongo Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Scott Lloyd said: What post are you quoting? Your misspelling of Monson. Couldn't resist, Scott.
Scott Lloyd Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Peacefully said: I’ll get it in before Scott does, it’s “Eubank” lol! I love her! For those who care about such things, she is a daughter of Mark Eubank, retired weatherman at KSL-TV in Salt Lake City. And, of course, a sister of Kevin Eubank, the station’s current weather guy. 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, rongo said: Your misspelling of Monson. Couldn't resist, Scott. Yeah, but what post are you quoting?
rongo Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Yeah, but what post are you quoting? The one you edited 30 minutes ago. It's gone, now. Mine follows yours, and the "minutes ago" in both of them match. That one. You got rid of the "Manson" thing and added more detail. Edited April 8, 2021 by rongo
Scott Lloyd Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, rongo said: The one you edited 30 minutes ago. It's gone, now. Mine follows yours, and the "minutes ago" in both of them match. That one. You got rid of the "Manson" thing and added more detail. Yeah, I knew all that. I thought I would have some mischievous fun gaslighting you for a few minutes. What happened is that I originally wrote the post about President Oaks in response to Kenngo’s inquiry. Then, seeing that someone else had posted about President Monson, I worried that Ken had been referring to him, so I subbed out my post for a new one. I soon realized I had been right the first time, so I restored the original post. I hoped no one would notice, but obviously you did, so I used it as an opportunity for some playful gaslighting. Don’t worry, I wasn’t going to carry it on longer than a few minutes. Incidentally, that was a funny quip about Squeaky Fromme. I wonder, though, if it went over the heads of the non-boomers here. 1
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