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Is your tag (avatar) name a play on "Moroni" ? Cute!

The best way to "invoke" her is to use the AT sign - - - {background noises and rumblings and thunderings} @Raingirl ! ! ! You are hereby SUMMONED ! ! !

The sound system is horrible in my ward house. Both me and my wife are hearing impaired. My wife has an app on her phone that will do live captioning. Very helpful!

In SLC Utahns were famous for heading over to Snelgroves for ice cream after sacrament meetings.

You do jumping jacks while standing on your head.

Could not feel the spirit? What kind of testimonies did you write in your mission journal? Maybe you are now in a state of complete lethargy?

Years ago I read a story about a guy that was visited by missionaries. He felt the spirit and was convinced of its truthfulness. But he deliberately chose to refuse baptism because he did NOT want to give up the pleasures in his life. Kind of like the rich man who was invited by Jesus to donate ALL his possessions and follow Him. The rich man had a simple choice. He probably was touched by the spirit but was very loathe to lose the comforts and the renown of elite circles. Too bad he did not understand how brief temporal life is. There is incredible glory and vast dominions to be gained by the faithful in Eternal Realms.

True scientists should be very wary of what you describe as "orthodoxy". Too many fields of science have been corrupted politically motivated funding and on-going narratives carefully maintained and "enforced". Such as climate hysteria, gender studies, evolution, etc. Even cosmology! No assumption here. We do not necessarily need to understand what "matter unorganized" means. We either wait for further revelation or we will understand in the next world. Good chance we knew this in the pre-exisence but in mortality the "veil of forgetfulness" has been placed over our minds.

But you have not really addressed the increasing contradictions as more observations are being made. That Big Bang proponents are scrambling to cover for by inventing new cosmological features such as Dark Energy and Dark Matter for which they have zero evidence except with contrived mathematics.

It might be plausible if there are multiple Big Bangs. Infinite parallel universes? But there will still be a ton of questions. Pre-conditions for each Big Bang? I am inclined not to pursue this angle. I will just follow up and point to Heavenly Father's instructions to Jehovah concerning a space where there is matter unorganized.

Over the many years I have been on this board, I would usually question the science (especially if it is being pushed by a persistent narrative that seems contrived) and explore scientific alternatives. Sometimes I would follow up with religious perspectives simply to give a doctrinal overview (not necessarily to PROVE my scientific arguments). I would invite you to review Stephen Meyer's work on evolution (which is deeply insightful). Hopefully you also gave yourself a chance to understand the work of Eric Lerner.

I don't think the story was evolving. Its just that you had a beam in your eye and used wrong judgment and got bit by your bias.

I’m confused. How does the Big Bang suggest a universe coming into existence out of nothing? Because Big Bang proponents have not a clue about the pre-conditions for the Big Bang? You were affirming what @InCognitus was saying: "What the James Webb telescope shows, according to a NASA source, is that the universe doesn't originate from a single point: "The Big Bang happened everywhere at once and was a process happening in time, not a point in time. In other words, there is NO definite location within the expanding universe where the point of singularity can be found (I can agree with that). However Big Bang proponents had been using the "Red Shift" phenomena as evidence for, well, the Big Bang! Please review my post above for alternative cosmologies ably presented by Eric Lerner. He shows how Big Bang proponents are madly scrambling to account for ever more contradictions as more observations are being made. I said "How so compelling!" to express my sarcasm. The Big Bang can only produce a finite universe (with finite number of intelligences) and definite starting point for time but an uncertain ending point (a possibility for finite time?). The point of singularity is finite. The resulting Big Bang cannot be infinite. On the other hand, we have the Gospel as restored by Joseph Smith. It definitely teaches of endless generations of the Gods and the work will NEVER end. Therefore the universe has to be infinite and the number of intelligences has to be infinite. It is even taught that ALL intelligences (you, me and future spirit children) are co-eternal with God). It is the purpose of God to invite intelligences to participate in the Plan of Happiness and thus enable ever greater dominions and endless generations forever and ever (no end to infinity).

In other words, the universe came into existence out of nothing and has been expanding ever since. How so compelling!

You make him sound like a gadfly but there are many solid institutions and sources that give Eric Lerner a lot of credibility. Here is an impressive overview of his career (see https://www.plasma-universe.com/eric-lerner/) Here is an open letter explaining the contrast between plasma cosmology and steady state model with the big bang theory (which is having to deal with more and more contradictions as new observations are being made, see https://www.plasma-universe.com/An-Open-Letter-to-the-Scientific-Community/). Note that this letter is co-signed by over 250 eminent scientists around world (their names and affiliated organizations are listed at the bottom: Here is another example of a work by Eric Lerner published at Harvard (see https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1988LPB.....6..457L/abstract) This is an amusing statement to be made. Similar to anthropologists who try to evade questions by saying abiogenesis is NOT the same thing as evolution.