Duncan Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Turns out they both tested positive for it. I can't even imagine the implications for them, now. I sincerely hope they recover. He was supposed to come here next month and dedicate the Temple but due to the obvious that isn't happening, and then now this. https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-and-sister-gong-diagnosed-with-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR06DR0Lqv17_Ih1qoF5d-p3QQN1J4t9OLgMkLncX_CXsRg2iw9K-wy196E Edited October 6, 2020 by Duncan 2 Link to comment
pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Duncan said: Turns out they both tested positive for it. I can't even imagine the implications for them, now. I sincerely hope they recover. He was supposed to come here next month and dedicate the Temple but due to the obvious that isn't happening, and then now this. https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-and-sister-gong-diagnosed-with-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR06DR0Lqv17_Ih1qoF5d-p3QQN1J4t9OLgMkLncX_CXsRg2iw9K-wy196E Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. 1 Link to comment
Duncan Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, pogi said: Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. the implications of this, how many folks they may have been around all need to be contacted etc. Link to comment
Popular Post gav Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, pogi said: Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. If I recall correctly they were already self isolating at home, his remarks were pre-recorded. 8 Link to comment
pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, gav said: If I recall correctly they were already self isolating at home, his remarks were pre-recorded. Oh good, thanks for the update. That could have been a really bad situation. 1 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, pogi said: Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. 18 minutes ago, gav said: If I recall correctly they were already self isolating at home, his remarks were pre-recorded. 8 minutes ago, pogi said: Oh good, thanks for the update. That could have been a really bad situation. Oh, come on, Gav, don't rain on our alarmism! 1 Link to comment
pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: Oh, come on, Gav, don't rain on our alarmism! huh? Link to comment
revelstoked Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Did he pre-record after finding out he was exposed or did all the speakers have videos available? Link to comment
ksfisher Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, pogi said: Oh good, thanks for the update. That could have been a really bad situation. I'm guessing you didn't get to watch his talk. The situation was explained either at the beginning of the session or when he was announced as a speaker, I forget which. I didn't notice any sign of illness during his talk. Edited October 6, 2020 by ksfisher 2 Link to comment
pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, ksfisher said: I'm guessing you didn't get to watch his talk. The situation was explained either at the beginning of the session or when he was announced as a speaker, I forget which. Ya, I missed it. It was a busy weekend, and even when I am trying to pay attention, I only get about 40% of it with 2 kids under 4. I don't get to enjoy conference live anymore. But I do always look forward to catching up when my kids go down. 1 Link to comment
ksfisher Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, pogi said: I only get about 40% of it with 2 kids under 4 Been there 👍 Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, pogi said: Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. It didn't look like Elder Gong was in the same place as the rest of the apostles, did it? I thought it showed that he had spoken from a different location? 3 Link to comment
Duncan Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 I think he pre-recorded it because as of this past weekend they didn't know but to err on the side of caution he stayed home and then I guess today or yestarday found out that they both have it 1 Link to comment
InCognitus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) At the 14 minute mark of the Saturday Afternoon session, Elder Oaks announced the speakers: "Brother Lund will be followed by Garret W. Gong of the Quorum of the twelve apostles. Out of caution, because he has been potentially exposed recently to COVID 19, elder Gong is at home today. He feels fine, but he recorded his remarks earlier." Elder Gong's talk starts just after the 43 minute mark, where there is a fade to black and then Elder Gong's talk is presented. His talk looks like it was recorded at the same location, but it sounds slightly different. There isn't the same echo. Edited October 6, 2020 by InCognitus 1 Link to comment
Stargazer Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) . Edited October 6, 2020 by Stargazer 1 Link to comment
Popular Post pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Stargazer said: We're treating this as if it were a death sentence, when by all statistics far more people survive it than die from it. Those with more co-morbidities die more frequently. If the Gongs are in good health anyway, chances are they will survive this without much problem. This late in the pandemic there is more known about the virus than at the beginning, treatment modalities are improving, and it's kind of time that we stopped being utterly freaked out about it. All of the brethren are at increased risk. It is a potential death sentence for many. Being freaked out and concerned for the vulnerable are two different things. After 200,000 deaths and counting, I think it is time that some start being concerned, don't you think? We should be concerned when anyone over the age of 65 is infected. Odds are he will be fine, but there is no guarantee. Should we be judged for being concerned? President Nelson is in excellent health. There is a very high chance he would die if he was exposed. Elder Gongs age and proximity to the rest of the brethren should be concerning to all of us. Luckily, he was quarantined in the nick of time before conference, or things could have been very different. Most over 65 have at least one comorbidity. Even people in relatively good health die from this. No one is freaking out here that I can see. You are building a strawman. Edited October 6, 2020 by pogi 6 Link to comment
Calm Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Stargazer said: We're treating this as if it were a death sentence Who is exactly doing this? I am more concerned with long term damage since he is only 66 (assuming his wife is around same age). Edited October 6, 2020 by Calm 2 Link to comment
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pogi Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Stargazer said: But I guess that stating a fact, namely "far more people survive it than die from it," is a point of contention. I have never seen that as a point of contention from anyone...ever...anywhere. I am glad to hear that you are concerned. Your comment just seems insensitive considering the topic of this thread, and out of place given the fact that no one is freaking out here. Claims and comments about alarmism (from another poster), and freaking out are out of place. Edited October 6, 2020 by pogi 2 Link to comment
Stargazer Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, pogi said: I have never seen that as a point of contention from anyone...ever...anywhere. I am glad to hear that you are concerned. Your comment just seems insensitive considering the topic of this thread, and out of place given the fact that no one is freaking out here. Claims and comments about alarmism (from another poster), and freaking out are out of place. As you wish. I shall delete my comments. Link to comment
rpn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised to learn that all of the speakers were asked to pre-record their talks just in case they couldn't give them. It would also have helped the translators so that everyone could hear it in their own language more quickly. 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, rpn said: I wouldn't be surprised to learn that all of the speakers were asked to pre-record their talks just in case they couldn't give them. It would also have helped the translators so that everyone could hear it in their own language more quickly. That is what occurred to me when I heard it being announced. Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 hours ago, pogi said: Wow, this places their infectious period dangerously close to conference. No, it doesn't. 8 hours ago, Duncan said: the implications of this, how many folks they may have been around all need to be contacted etc. Nobody needs to be contacted except for maybe his wife, and I think ... they've got that covered. 7 hours ago, pogi said: Oh good, thanks for the update. That could have been a really bad situation. Yes, I suppose it could have been a bad situation, if all of the alarmism in which some posters were engaged in earlier on this thread reflected ... reality ... but, it doesn't, so ... 1 Link to comment
Chum Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Duncan said: I think he pre-recorded it because as of this past weekend they didn't know but to err on the side of caution he stayed home and then I guess today or yestarday found out that they both have it I'm writing in Elder Gong on my ballot. 2 Link to comment
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