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  1. I haven't watched them yet (and probably won't get a chance to do that until later today), but I already agree with the cover photo of the first one: "VIEW OF THE HEBREWS LOLOLOL"
  2. I don't think you can assume that the cities were all wood simply because they were "burned". Consider this text from 2 Kings 25:8-9 regarding the destruction of Jerusalem: Now look at the photos in this archaeological article on Uncovering Zedekiah’s Destroyed City, and read what it says in the text: So cities can be "burned" even if they aren't all made of wood.
  3. I’ve been wanting to give a more thorough response to your post, and I thought I was going to have more leisure time over the Thanksgiving holiday to do it, but that didn’t work out for me. But I try to get some of my thoughts across anyway….. Addressing the issue you raise above about 1 Nephi 1:4. I will quote the entire verse: Notice that the verse doesn’t say that Lehi dwelt “in” Jerusalem, but “at Jerusalem”, and the verse makes a very clear distinction about the “city” of Jerusalem that must be destroyed. This is an important distinction, because the Book of Mormon often
  4. I always considered the statistics of the parable of the sower (Matthew 13:3-9, 18-23) to be realistic in this regard. There are four soil types (or situations) mentioned in the parable: (1) The wayside, or the people who don't understand the word of the kingdom and reject it outright, (2) the stony places, the people who hear the word with joy and receive it but don't have deep roots and are ultimately offended by it because of persecution or hardships, (3) the thorny soil, the people who hear the word and receive it but get caught up in riches or the things of the world and are unfruitful,
  5. Or, if the monolith was put in Utah by aliens, then maybe Stanley Kubrick got the dimensions wrong.
  6. Utah seems to be the place for first contact: No doubt the people in Utah have heard about this already (or they've been abducted and can't say anything), but here's a Washington Post article about it.
  7. I don't get the controversy. It's just a minor issue.
  8. My wife was the ward chorister for six years, so I sent her a link to this thread for her amusement. Her comments are as follows: "There aren't many choices for 'New Year's' themed hymns, so we end up using this one despite our reservations. But the hymn itself isn't the problem. It has wonderful words, taken directly from a Tennyson poem, and the harmonies are actually quite beautiful. The problem is that it's too difficult for most congregations to sing. The timing is unusual and no one is familiar enough with the hymn to sing the harmonies correctly. Since it's in a minor key, the co
  9. But there is also a cup with grass growing in it too. You have two cats, and grass to eat, and sand.... well, you know what cats do with sand. And then there's the problem of what generally happens after a cat eats some grass. That just seems like a recipe for disaster.
  10. That TV is defective, the picture is too fuzzy.
  11. I too am grateful that I don't use hashtags. I am grateful for all the time I save by not using social media But I'm also grateful that my 83 year old mom emailed everyone yesterday to say she doesn't want the family coming for Thanksgiving dinner at my parents house. I have at least two siblings (and their families) that aren't taking the COVID-19 virus situation seriously at all, and they take no thought to visit my parents whenever they feel like it and seem oblivious to the danger their neglect may inadvertently pose to our parents. My dad is not doing well, and I have been tryin
  12. This is typical prophetic language. Consider Jeremiah's prophecy about the same event: Jer 9:11 "And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant." Was Jeremiah not aware that the poorest remained in the land as the Bible says? If we follow your line of reasoning, apparently Jeremiah was also clueless. But what is the truth of the matter? "Look not to find fault where there is no fault, but consider all things in the setting in which it was given" (InCognitus 23:14). And, "don't use a double standard."
  13. But, his assumptions are based on an assessment of attitudes of that time period using historical sources, they aren't pulled out of thin air. It all comes down to how you interpret the data, and you can't get away from the "mental mind games" with this kind of thing because, as has been pointed out, historical accounts don't always mesh with each other.
  14. The chronology in Jeffrey R. Chadwick's article that I posted above accounts for all the data (including the biblical texts), and it is entirely plausible given the things going on at that time, and he positions Lehi's departure at 605 BC, prior to the events in 2 Kings 24:10-16 (he dates that to 597 BC). So none of your concerns apply to his approach. There will always need to be some "fill in the blanks" speculation, because there are plenty of blanks to fill in.
  15. I hadn't read Calm's post quoting Book of Mormon Central's article when I started looking into this, but her post summarized things quite nicely. I was reading Randall P. Spackman's approach to the chronology (see: Mormon's Statement about the First year of Zedekiah for the full explanation), and I also read Jeffrey R. Chadwick's 2018 BYU Studies article, "Dating the Departure of Lehi From Jerusalem," BYU Studies Quarterly 57/2 (2018): 6-51 (or for an alternate link, Book of Mormon Central has the article here). Daniel C. Peterson summarized Jeffery Chadwick's credentials and introduce
  16. I'm answering this to put in a plug for the BYU Scriptures Mapped project (I like that site ). You click on a chapter of the scriptures and it shows you a map for the place names mentioned in the chapter. I selected Matthew 21, and this is what it looks like. Zoom in on the map to see the relationship of Bethany to the Mount of Olives. The map associates Bethany with the modern name Al-Eizariya, and the Wikipedia article on Bethany does the same. From what I can tell from the map, it appears that Bethany is very close to where the BYU Center is located.
  17. I think the only "verses" is the lawlessness and violence that is sometimes associated with the message. I understand that there is frustration that leads to the lawlessness and violence, but the end result of that completely undermines the true message in my opinion, and it is in fact contrary to the message and works against it (and thus the "verses"). (Martin Luther King Jr. did it the right way).
  18. This story in the Indianapolis Star was posted late yesterday, and while this isn't about political sportsmanship I hope the spirit of this good deed by a high school runner is something that the entire nation will take to heart today, and it reminded me of this thread: I really like it when stories like this make the news. It gives me hope.
  19. Is this being fueled by the media somehow? I understand the need to take precautions against unruly demonstrations, but why the frenzy at the stores? I forgot to mention (in my "END OF THE WORLD" post above). After my wife told me about her Costco experience, I pulled up a local (Arizona) radio news website to try to find out what might be fueling the frenzy, and the first headline I noticed was this one: Arizona reports 666 new coronavirus cases, 1 additional death 666? Really? Today of all days? This can't be coincidental.
  20. My wife just got back from Costco. She went today instead of on Saturday, since "Saturday is normally a busy day at Costco and people don't normally shop on Monday". Right. Obviously we both missed some big "THE WORLD ENDS ON NOVEMBER 3RD" sign of the times somewhere, because she said the people shopping there were acting crazy. The place was packed, the lines were long, and the people in line had carts of toilet paper and canned meat, and the employees were having trouble keeping the shelves stocked, and the line at the gas pumps went out of the parking lot. She needed to buy some things
  21. See? You had it right then when you said: "Maybe we could define a mortal child of God as currently being a less-than-full-potential God."
  22. I like that. I was also going to also suggest: The Development of the Doctrine of Preexistence, 1830-1844 by Charles R. Harrell Charles R. Harrell; BYU Studies Vol. 28, No. 2, pg.75
  23. I'm not normally into making memes, but I had to make another one. When I go for walks at night, I typically see two or three cats hanging out together (with no social distancing) in the middle of the street. And my warped brain keeps getting the song from the Don Bluth movie, "American Tail" stuck in my head (and if you aren't familiar with the film you won't get the meme, but the relevant movie clip is here. My kids will get it, and I made it to send to them). It's always too dark for me to take a photo of the cats that I see while walking at night, so I had to find another picture that
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