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  1. Clearly there is one strait(spelling is important) and narrow covenant path but there seem to be many ways that people can stumble upon that path... All of these ways if continued to their logical end will lead to fulness and perfection. Some may be less direct and more convoluted but each is suited to the capacity and desired of the individual. Alma 12:9-11 D&C 50:21-25
  2. Has that "seek to understand before you seek to be understood" ring to it. Your friend seems like he was able to demonstrate a lot of that in this situation.
  3. Yes, put slightly differently, the word of God is not only written in the scriptures but also in the skies. The skies back up what is described in the scriptures, especially when combined with modern revelation. There is plenty of debate about the scriptures but the skies, not so much. The skies are, for the most part, completely deterministic and operate on an empirical basis. There is very little room for debate there. You would be able to verify the scriptures, by what is written in the stars, and they both testify of Jesus Christ and the Restoration. The skies are in effect still ano
  4. The skillset expansion would require learning and using a new piece of software like that downloadable from http://stellarium.org/ or use the web version. "Stellarium is a free open source planetarium for your computer. It shows a realistic sky in 3D, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope." With it you can place yourself anywhere in the world and look at what the sky would have looked like at any time in the past or into the future. With this you can follow the method by looking up for yourself the celestial events described(signs) and confirming t
  5. Greater light = greater condemnation. We undergo testing and trial outside of the direct presence of God for this reason. Hence Adam and eve were driven out of the garden of eden.
  6. It seems we are perhaps on different pages then. My hierarchy of "data integrity" is as follows: Astronomy is tops - empirical for the most part from our perspective - planetary motions, eclipses etc. totally deterministic with only slight unpredictable deviations over millennia, due to shifts in the matter within and on the earth creating infinitesimally small variations that may add up over time. Not of such magnitude to be of major importance. Scripture - given that it is inspired, but at the same time requiring correct and inspired interpretation. Historical source
  7. The war started in heaven continues having only shifted terrains.
  8. I'm not so sure... 2 Nephi 11:4 4 Behold, my soul delighteth in aproving unto my people the truth of the bcoming of Christ; for, for this end hath the claw of Moses been given; and all things which have been given of God from the beginning of the world, unto man, are the dtypifying of him.
  9. How do these dates gel with other dates? revealed or otherwise?
  10. The globe hadn't fully recovered from the 2008 financial crisis and that has made the financial impact of this pandemic much worse for those that didn't or couldn't make adjustments in the ensuing years. Conference had "a brace yourselves" thematic element intermingled with "don't panic and do what you can as directed by the spirit" What I seem to notice from the scriptures is that there are some instantaneous calamities and some that may take decades. In the latter cases often the first calamitous waves are warning shots and the wise take warning, prepare and get by OK through the harshe
  11. The similarity is that they are not purely solar calendars/counts but also have lunar elements. Hence in the Jewish/Hebrew, the need to insert intercalary months to realign it with the solar year every couple of years. The phase of the moon determines the start of the months and the new year. Hence it is lunisolar. The long count also has Lunar element which renders an even longer count and the determines the "lords of the night". So, it is also not purely solar like our Gregorian Calendar. The Book of Mormon gives us a direct relationship between the sign of Christ's birth (night with
  12. Not quite where you are but similar-ish. I was baptised at age eight, but since my earliest recollection thereof I thought the first vision was far fetched and Joseph Smith's claims rather fantastic. I liked church and what I learned about how to be a better person... I can't say that I was very good at some aspects of that as a teen or that I knew anything for sure. I did however, over all those years, stick with the church, the scriptures and gospel principles. At age 20, after all the previous years of not knowing or having a "sure testimony and witness" of many aspects of the go
  13. Some Biblical events, especially those relating to important events in the mission of Jesus Christ, happen around holy days on the Jewish calendar. This is a luni-solar calendar which differs from a 365 day solar calendar in a similar fashion(but not exact) to the Mesoamerican year count. The interplays between the days of the week, which have remained constant despite the changing calendars and different cycling of months etc. make for useful diagnostics. For instance passover does not always fall on a Friday so when we know that an event occurred on a passover that was also a Friday we
  14. The are those for sure and even though the odds are astronomical there are sophisticated arguments to absolve the Creator of any responsibility for those convenient niceties. It's all a matter of perspective and how one defines good.
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