Hamba Tuhan Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Calm said: There is a green burial service in Utah: And if you go to store.lds.org, the Church sells biodegradable temple clothing for this very purpose.
Calm Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: And if you go to store.lds.org, the Church sells biodegradable temple clothing for this very purpose. Excellent. Thanks for pointing this out.
jcake Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Green burial sounds good. Anyone know how the pricing compares to traditional burials or cremation?
Calm Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 This says $2000-3000: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-more-americans-are-considering-green-funerals-2015-10-29
mnn727 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 22 hours ago, JLHPROF said: I was under the impression that cremation was discouraged for endowed members unless required by law in that location. discouraged but not forbidden
mnn727 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 21 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: I despise cremation. Why? The soul has left the body and I sure want a better body in the resurrection than this 60+ year old body I currently have.
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, mnn727 said: Why? The soul has left the body and I sure want a better body in the resurrection than this 60+ year old body I currently have. I have a number of reasons. One of them is the industrial nature of it. And that begins to touch on the historical reasons .. 1
halconero Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 I plan on the green burial pod with biodegradable clothing. Maybe a bit creepy, but I think the idea of a family member later coming a lot and scratching my name into the tree would be cool. 1
halconero Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Re the veil, I personally felt it symbolized close communion with God, similar to Moses coming down off the mountain. 1
katherine the great Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 19 hours ago, mnn727 said: Why? The soul has left the body and I sure want a better body in the resurrection than this 60+ year old body I currently have. I much prefer the thought of cremation to being buried and decomposition. However, once the spirit moves on, I doubt many fret over what happens to their body. My family will probably choose to bury me. But I do not want an open casket. Yuck. A closed (inexpensive) casket with a lifesize pop up of me in my prime standing next to it. Yes. 😁 2
Garden Girl Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, katherine the great said: I much prefer the thought of cremation to being buried and decomposition. However, once the spirit moves on, I doubt many fret over what happens to their body. My family will probably choose to bury me. But I do not want an open casket. Yuck. A closed (inexpensive) casket with a lifesize pop up of me in my prime standing next to it. Yes. 😁 My mom made us promise to have her in a closed casket... said open gave her the creeps... like people watching her sleep... GG 1
changed Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 23 hours ago, The Nehor said: Cremation sounds like a cleaner process. You stick the body in an incinerator and keep the the ashes but after the initial burning the remains (usually including bits of the casket or container they are in) is all swept up and there are usually still recognizable bone fragments. The remains are swept/magnetized to search for metal to remove fillings, hip replacements, whatever. These fragments and the rest of the body are all dumped into a grinder which is basically a blender that purées the bones down and grinds it all to dust. Then it is put in an urn or whatever. To me that is not appreciably cleaner then letting the body rot. For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return... I have never been a fan of bodily juices I guess... dry dust sounds good to me. 1
Popular Post bluebell Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2019 10 hours ago, halconero said: Re the veil, I personally felt it symbolized close communion with God, similar to Moses coming down off the mountain. In Ether, being within the veil means to be in God's presence. 5
Popular Post The Nehor Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, changed said: For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return... I have never been a fan of bodily juices I guess... dry dust sounds good to me. I want to be stuffed by a skilled taxidermist and then put in a rocking chair on a porch of a small old house so I can scare children. 7
ttribe Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: I want to be stuffed by a skilled taxidermist and then put in a rocking chair on a porch of a small old house so I can scare children. Every now and then you still come up with a good one....🤣
Tacenda Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, bluebell said: In Ether, being within the veil means to be in God's presence. Wow, I wish this was expressed to the women all this time and even kept in place if so!
Bane Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 I buried my first wife with her temple veil over her face. It felt right to me somehow. I don't understand why this is being made optional now. If I outlive my second wife (unlikely), I'll do the same with her.
JLHPROF Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, Bane said: I buried my first wife with her temple veil over her face. It felt right to me somehow. I don't understand why this is being made optional now. If I outlive my second wife (unlikely), I'll do the same with her. As has been stated, this is a personal decision, for either the person or their family. You have as much right to choose as they do. Everyone has an opinion and rightly so. The bigger question that nobody ever seems to ask is what does God actually think (assuming he has a position on the topic).
Calm Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Bane said: I buried my first wife with her temple veil over her face. It felt right to me somehow. I don't understand why this is being made optional now. If I outlive my second wife (unlikely), I'll do the same with her. Because some people don't feel right about it? Perhaps since you wanted to veil your wife, you can imagine it might have tarnished the moment if the rules said no? If it is not doctrinal, why not make it optional? Edited February 1, 2019 by Calm
Tacenda Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Calm said: Because some people don't feel right about it? Perhaps since you wanted to veil your wife, you can imagine it might have tarnished the moment if the rules said no? If it is not doctrinal, why not make it optional? I feel sorry for members of this church, they can't think for themselves in case it's breaking church rules.
Gray Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) On 1/30/2019 at 9:14 AM, mfbukowski said: Dunno really. I think it's like the code of the universe, we eat living things and should in turn feed them, even it is only worms or trees or petunias. It's more a feeling than anything reasoned. As a kid, I would lay on the grass under a tree, just thinking, smelling the earth, hearing the bees buzzing, feeling the sun, and sometimes I wanted to just melt into it all. It was more about the process of "melting" rather than being instantly atomized. In which case maybe we should all just be buried in the back yard, no embalming, no casket. Actually that doesn't sound bad. I suppose that would creep out the buyers if your family sells the property, though Edited February 1, 2019 by Gray 1
Gray Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 12:31 AM, Hamba Tuhan said: I like it even less after becoming friends with a man who was working at the crematorium. Nothing natural about it at all. Maybe I should request a more traditional cremation. Put me on a viking ship with my favorite axe, set it aflame, and push me out to sea! 3
MustardSeed Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, JLHPROF said: The bigger question that nobody ever seems to ask is what does God actually think (assuming he has a position on the topic). I ask it all the time, and God tells me I’m over thinking and that he has bigger fish to fry. 2
JAHS Posted February 1, 2019 Author Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: I feel sorry for members of this church, they can't think for themselves in case it's breaking church rules. Believe it or not most members like to have a set of rules to live by. It doesn't mean they can't think for themselves it is just that having a set of rules to live by brings order and stability into one's life. They like knowing what God expects of them, especially if those rules come from God inspired church leaders. 3
MustardSeed Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 People who think in terms of black and white find great comfort and stability in religion. That is simply a fact. Not everyone in religion is black and white. Also a fact. These two groups have very different relationships with religion, and with God. Neither is all right or all wrong. I guess you can see by this statement that I am not black and white. I don’t agree with black and white thinking in general but I know it exists and I also understand the roots of it. There is room in the inn for both, but we are not gonna agree on what to eat for dinner. 2
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