How Do We Get Out Of The Crisis Of Faith Dead End?

[Tacenda]

There is. I call the campaign rep points for Pa Pa.

I'm away from my computer for awhile now, the format on my phone doesn't show the arrow for rep points.

[DBMormon]

March 04, 1984

BYU Fireside Address Our Companion,

the Holy Ghost

Hugh W. Pinnock

http://speeches.byu.edu/index.php?act=viewitem&id=519

Samlam - Have been pondering your comments generally. Determined tonight to ponder them thouroughly. I will let you know once I recognize I am not where I am today in understanding.

I found the talk above which I add to your the list in this thread.

SAMLAM - If you have a written down article on all these thoughts, I would be grateful for it if you have all this in a complete thought written out.

[SamIam]

March 04, 1984

BYU Fireside Address Our Companion,

the Holy Ghost

Hugh W. Pinnock

http://speeches.byu....viewitem&id=519

Samlam - Have been pondering your comments generally. Determined tonight to ponder them thouroughly. I will let you know once I recognize I am not where I am today in understanding.

I found the talk above which I add to your the list in this thread.

SAMLAM - If you have a written down article on all these thoughts, I would be grateful for it if you have all this in a complete thought written out.

I have nothing that is a concrete specific document on these things. It is a collection of multiple trains of thought in scripture study and experience.

[SamIam]

March 04, 1984

BYU Fireside Address Our Companion,

the Holy Ghost

Hugh W. Pinnock

http://speeches.byu....viewitem&id=519

Samlam - Have been pondering your comments generally. Determined tonight to ponder them thouroughly. I will let you know once I recognize I am not where I am today in understanding.

I found the talk above which I add to your the list in this thread.

SAMLAM - If you have a written down article on all these thoughts, I would be grateful for it if you have all this in a complete thought written out.

Your article is good. I also reccomend Elder Bednar's talk from conference:

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/converted-unto-the-lord?lang=eng

He has had more direct talks on this subject but this one is excellant as well.

I also thought the Craig Christensen talk had a fine spiriti about the subject, though again not as targeted on approach:

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/an-unspeakable-gift-from-god?lang=eng

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

Sometimes I wonder why people seem to spin in circles not getting out of a pattern of thinking that is not inclined to provide spiritual growth. I have wondered if perhaps it is because they loose sight of the objectives that mark degrees of progress so that they can sort of determine where they are in the process.

I remembered I have given two children to missions (one still serving) and I taught a class because I could not get someone to do it...and suddenly teaching what I thought I had forgotten, and the Spirit of God came into me with great force...and felt his love again. It was I who had forgotten him and not the other way around. I was reborn again...my sad comments a few weeks ago got me in trouble, so I must re-earn trust here.

[DBMormon]

Podcast using Samlam's thoughts with his permission. I took some of the great points Samlam made on this thread and after pondering on all of it and listening to the talks from GA's discussed within it, this was the final work. I am looking forward to further implementing these principles into my own life

http://mormondiscuss...the-holy-ghost/

Edited October 27, 2012 by DBMormon