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Evolving Views Since Joining Mormon Dialogue


Evolving Views Since Joinng Mormon Dialogue?  

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  1. 1. When I first joined Mormon Dialogue...

    • I was a "TBM"... but now I don't believe.
      6
    • I was a "TBM"... but now I have my doubts.
      3
    • I was a "TBM"... and still am.
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4 minutes ago, ZealouslyStriving said:

After seeing the discussions here, I am genuinely curious about the influence of the discussions here on people's religious views.

How about a "no change' option.

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You might want to include the option "I was a TBM and still am". The option "...and believe still more than ever" suggests I would be even more TBM than when I came to the boards and that's simply not the case. I am pretty much TBM and always have been. 

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I struggle with labels since they lack nuance and the beauty in finding out about others is always in the nuances so won’t label myself by choosing one of the poll boxes.  I enjoy the wide range of personalities and opinions on the board.  I don’t have much, if any, angst in my life so generally avoid the angst-laden threads, instead gravitating to those threads where people share ideas and beliefs, are interested in the ideas of and beliefs of others, and not dismissive of invitations.

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When I first joined this group, I was already well into a "faith crisis" (if that's the term you like). Since joining, I've looked for resolutions to those issues, and recently decided that resolutions just aren't forthcoming. For the immediate future, the path before me looks like a (much maligned) "cafeteria Mormon" path. I will keep the things that seem right and good and true, and discard the things that don't.

I guess that means, if the poll option were included, I would check "doubting TBM to cafeteria Mormon" (or equivalent).

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3 minutes ago, Damien the Leper said:

I was but a shell of a creature waiting to blossom into a Catholic with a deep love of Eastern Orthodoxy.

I have recently started watching Eastern Orthodox videos. I would not object if we added incense and candles, smells and bells, to our services. I don't know why some object to priestly vestments, Israelite High Priests had quite a fancy wardrobe. Dress them priests and deacons up!

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3 hours ago, ZealouslyStriving said:

After seeing the discussions here, I am genuinely curious about the influence of the discussions here on people's religious views.

This is a different discussion than your question.  While the board may or may not have influence on someone's views your poll question will not show it has caused those views. 

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14 minutes ago, CV75 said:

I don't know what a TBM is supposed to really be.

My understanding is that it is a reference to either "True Blue Mormon" or "Totally Believing Mormon."  The latter may have, for some, a pejorative connotation, as it indicates someone who is a Latter-day Saint more because of some sort of tribalism than because of having developed a thoughtful and well-informed faith in the Restored Gospel.

For others, "TBM" just means someone who is a faithful and observant Latter-day Saint.

Thanks,

-Smac

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IIRC, "TBM" was invented by critics.  It seems to be widely used an awful lot of exmo spaces as way (sometimes a mocking way) of referring to folks with solid beliefs. 

Similar to the "internet mormon/chapel mormon" stuff that seemed to be popular 10 years ago.  A way to divide us into camps of people who had either looked into church history and had a few brain cells, or those who steadfastly refused to read or think anything that didn't come from a church magazine.

I've never felt the need to measure myself according to any scale thought up by critics.  But I did answer the poll. :) 

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6 minutes ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

IIRC, "TBM" was invented by critics.  It seems to be widely used an awful lot of exmo spaces as way (sometimes a mocking way) of referring to folks with solid beliefs. 

I understand it to come from a story of a missionary confronted by an anti-Mormon mob when asked if he was a "Mormon" instead of denying it, he proudly proclaimed, " Yes siree, true blue, through and through!"

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30 minutes ago, smac97 said:

My understanding is that it is a reference to either "True Blue Mormon" or "Totally Believing Mormon."  The latter may have, for some, a pejorative connotation, as it indicates someone who is a Latter-day Saint more because of some sort of tribalism than because of having developed a thoughtful and well-informed faith in the Restored Gospel.

For others, "TBM" just means someone who is a faithful and observant Latter-day Saint.

Thanks,

-Smac

In that case, I'm of the latter descriptive statement (LDS -- :D ). As such, I checked the third box. 

@ZealouslyStriving, I think there is more to "evolving views" than faith in Christ and observing the covenants, though those are the ultimate aims. I think my participation on MDDB has helped me think through many issues on my way (evolution) to applying the Gospel in my life as the world changes. Could I have done this without MDDB? I hope so, but I like it anyway! :D 

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39 minutes ago, ZealouslyStriving said:

I understand it to come from a story of a missionary confronted by an anti-Mormon mob when asked if he was a "Mormon" instead of denying it, he proudly proclaimed, " Yes siree, true blue, through and through!"

It is a story about Joseph F. Smith that was first recorded a year after his death.  The story happened when he was returning from his Hawaiin mission in 1857 in California.  There's a 4 original variants (by 3 different people who knew Joseph F. Smith).  https://juvenileinstructor.org/true-blue-depending-on-whos-telling-the-tale-the-redacted-story-of-joseph-f-smith-and-the-ruffians/ has a nice break down of the different variants.

Edited to add: There's a short video about it at https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2012-05-0603-preparation-of-joseph-f-smith-true-blue-through-and-through?lang=eng

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